Stock Market Will Continue To Tank. Here's Why

[red viking]

1) Trump has already been all over the place, endless cycle of trying to be tough and then caving. Also, admitted to relying "upon instinct" for his tariff policy. Pathetic. Zero credibility. 

2) Trade partners don't believe he'll stick to his word and know hes a weak  person, mentslly and physically. Stock investors know he's erratic and not thinking straight.

3) Trump views "deals" as a zero sum game. That's why he's ripped so many people off but also had so many failed businesses, despite being born with silver spoon and being (I admit) a gifted conman with excellent charisma. As a result, he's looking to "win" deals and even rip countries off instead of going for something neutral. As a result, he'll continue to fail in his trade "negotiations" just like his failed businesses. 

4) Bond market sell-off yesterday showed our vulnerability. That's a big card that other countries have on us. 

 

Edited Thursday at 05:17 PM by red viking

[Caveira]

Just now, red viking said:

1) Trump has already been all over the place, endless cycle of trying to be tough and then caving. Also, admitted to relying "upon instinct" for his tariff policy. Pathetic. Zero credibility. 

2) Trade partners don't believe he'll stick to his word and know hes a weak  person, mentslly and physically. Stock investors know he's erratic and not thinking straight.

3) Trump views "deals" as a zero sum game. That's why he's ripped so many people off but also had so many failed businesses, despite being born with silver spoon and being (I admit) a gifted conman with excellent charisma. As a result, he's looking to "win" deals and even rip countries off instead of going for something neutral. As a result, he'll continue to fail in his trade "negotiations" just like his failed businesses. 

 

I know you know everything.  Why don’t you grab some of that girlfriend mooch money and short everything and become filthy rich.   Once your a filthy rich bazillionaire you can then fix the world and pay your fair share of taxes on it. 

[red viking]

10 minutes ago, Caveira said:

I know you know everything.  Why don’t you grab some of that girlfriend mooch money and short everything and become filthy rich.   Once your a filthy rich bazillionaire you can then fix the world and pay your fair share of taxes on it. 

We have a preñup. Both have our own kids and she won't give me money for that purpose. Besides, I don't actually need it. 

[scourge165]

10 minutes ago, red viking said:

1) Trump has already been all over the place, endless cycle of trying to be tough and then caving. Also, admitted to relying "upon instinct" for his tariff policy. Pathetic. Zero credibility. 

2) Trade partners don't believe he'll stick to his word and know hes a weak  person, mentslly and physically. Stock investors know he's erratic and not thinking straight.

3) Trump views "deals" as a zero sum game. That's why he's ripped so many people off but also had so many failed businesses, despite being born with silver spoon and being (I admit) a gifted conman with excellent charisma. As a result, he's looking to "win" deals and even rip countries off instead of going for something neutral. As a result, he'll continue to fail in his trade "negotiations" just like his failed businesses. 

 

I don't think it's going to tank(though Trump does view business as a zero sum game and there are some...truly horrifying and despicable claims about him not paying small businesses money for small projects on his behalf, but large projects for them). 

 

But no, I don't think it's going to continue to tank. It overreacted to the news yesterday, it's correcting today. Trump HAS caused damage, but America's trade partners need us and it's not the EU vs Trump(speaking of which, the EU also paused tariffs). 

China and the US likely come to an agreement...and as long as Trump is diabused of this notion that a trade deficit means you're "losing" or "being screwed," then we'll be fine.

 

And moreover, the GOP won't allow him to reimpose those tariffs. I would bet(in fact...I mostly have...putting most of my money back in yesterday and today) that we're around the bottom. 

 

The ONE thing that'd lead me to possibly side with you is the CPI. It bottomed out today. 2.4%(proof that Biden's policies REALLY were working extremely well...and also proof the damage he did by not honoring his word to be one term President). But I don't agree with this take by in large. 

[Caveira]

1 minute ago, red viking said:

We have a preñup. Both have our own kids and she won't give me money for that purpose. Besides, I don't actually need it. 

Don’t be a bad person.  You can help a lot of people in need with this knowledge.  Think of all the illegal aliens you could sponsor. 

[scourge165]

13 minutes ago, Caveira said:

I know you know everything.  Why don’t you grab some of that girlfriend mooch money and short everything and become filthy rich.   Once your a filthy rich bazillionaire you can then fix the world and pay your fair share of taxes on it. 

It's a bit amusing to me...yet again, when people talk about personal attacks on here...and yet, I've heard this one multiple times. 

What relevance is it to you how much his partner makes? 

[red viking]

1 minute ago, scourge165 said:

It's a bit amusing to me...yet again, when people talk about personal attacks on here...and yet, I've heard this one multiple times. 

What relevance is it to you how much his partner makes? 

It's funny. All I said is that my fiance makes a nice income so wingers assume she's my " sugar momma." That's typical of wingers. Jump to conclusions w o any evidence whatsoever. 

[red viking]

12 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

And moreover, the GOP won't allow him to reimpose those tariffs. 

Well have to agree to disagree. This is the one that I disagree w most though. Why are you confident about this? I know there was a bill introduced related to this but it never had anything close to the support needed to stop him. 

[scourge165]

1 hour ago, red viking said:

Well have to agree to disagree. This is the one that I disagree w most though. Why are you confident about this? I know there was a bill introduced related to this but it never had anything close to the support needed to stop him. 

Did you see the backlash? 

You think Trump wants to lose more seats in the midterm than they're already going to? Risk the Senate? 

They're not going back to the blanket tariffs. Even Trump isn't that dumb. He just saw it nearly decimate the economy in less than a week. You had small businesses actually already go out of business(if Ron Johnson is to be believed). 

That's why I'm confident about that.

 

Even the tariffs he has in place now, I'm going to guess they get resolved(there are some really dumb ones in place). 

[scourge165]

2 hours ago, red viking said:

It's funny. All I said is that my fiance makes a nice income so wingers assume she's my " sugar momma." That's typical of wingers. Jump to conclusions w o any evidence whatsoever. 

LOL...that's it? I assumed you made the mistake of sharing something more personal than that like I did, but just your Fiancé makes a good income? 

That's some insecurity to bring that up. 

[VakAttack]

6 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

Did you see the backlash? 

You think Trump wants to lose more seats in the midterm than they're already going to? Risk the Senate? 

They're not going back to the blanket tariffs. Even Trump isn't that dumb. He just saw it nearly decimate the economy in less than a week. You had small businesses actually already go out of business(if Ron Johnson is to be believed). 

That's why I'm confident about that.

 

Even the tariffs he has in place now, I'm going to guess they get resolved(there are some really dumb ones in place). 

Trump doesn't care about losing seats in the abstract, he takes no blame for anything, either inside himself or within the party.

[scourge165]

18 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

Trump doesn't care about losing seats in the abstract, he takes no blame for anything, either inside himself or within the party.

I disagree. I think he cares VERY much about it. 

He'll say he doesn't and he'll declare it a win no matter what.

'They say no matter what the party in office loses the midterms....but we lost by fewer seats than maybe anyone in history. Nobody thought we would do so well in the midterms...and we would have done better if they would have listened to me. I told(whomever loses) he should have listened to me, but now look at him.'

-Trump after losing 80 seats in the House and 10 in the Senate.

So yes, he'll say that no matter what and pretend, but...we know he cares. 

 

That said, I remember when Obama used Executive Orders for their intended purpose and people threw a fit. That's the only way Trump Governs now. 

 

And this one, it's not actually relevant, but I wonder...if you gave truth serum to people, how many would say Trump is really just...a moron. Not like a...Desanto or Josh Hawley or Ted Cruz, people we don't like but who are clearly intelligent, but someone they wanted to win, but they knew he isn't very smart?

[mspart]

4 hours ago, red viking said:

It's funny. All I said is that my fiance makes a nice income so wingers assume she's my " sugar momma." That's typical of wingers. Jump to conclusions w o any evidence whatsoever. 

Just following your lead there.

mspart