Is anybody safe from PSU?

[Not creative name]

in the most recent interview Welsh basically said he wants to train with the best so he can be the best.  i could see others adapting this mentality; sacrifice a year or two as B string but then when it is your time to shine you lay the hammer on everybody and bonus your way through NCAAs. i'm not saying Welsh won't make the starting lineup next season, but he is smart with his long term thinking.

why be a 3 or 4 mid-tier NCAA placer when you can be a 1 or 2 time champ. i'd definitely pick the latter, not to mention the invaluable learned skills for a post collegiate career. 

will others follow suit and sit the bench for guaranteed later career glory?

Edited Sunday at 11:44 PM by Not creative name

[Masonbuckeye]

5 minutes ago, Not creative name said:

in the most recent interview Welsh basically said he wants to train with the best so he can be the best.  i could see others adapting this mentality; sacrifice a year or two as B string but then when it is your time to shine you lay the hammer on everybody and bonus your way through NCAAs. i'm not saying Welsh won't make the starting lineup next season, but he is smart with his long term thinking.

why be a 3 or 4 mid-tier NCAA placer when you can be a 1 or 2 time champ. i'd definitely pick the latter, not to mention the invaluable learned skills for a post collegiate career. 

will others follow suit and sit the bench for guaranteed later career glory?

Cuz you can AA as a freshman and be set for life next year by Iowa donors

[Caveira]

5 minutes ago, Masonbuckeye said:

Cuz you can AA as a freshman and be set for life next year by Iowa donors

What did psu pay for Rocco Welch?

[The Kid]

9 minutes ago, Caveira said:

What did psu pay for Rocco Welch?

Apparently  Rocco is a walk on and will have to pay for his membership to the nlwc as well.

[Wrestleknownothing]

10 minutes ago, Caveira said:

What did psu pay for Rocco Welch?

He didn't say, but he said he had higher offers elsewhere.

[VakAttack]

1 minute ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

He didn't say, but he said he had higher offers elsewhere.

He's being paid in Schrute bucks.

[MPhillips]

2 minutes ago, The Kid said:

Apparently  Rocco is a walk on and will have to pay for his membership to the nlwc as well.

He certainly has some money to cover it...

[Masonbuckeye]

3 minutes ago, MPhillips said:

He certainly has some money to cover it...

Isn’t his family pretty well off?

[Wrestleknownothing]

3 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

He's being paid in Schrute bucks.

Same mistake Bob Nicolls makes. You would think he, of all people , knew to pay in Stanley Nickels.

[Wrestleknownothing]

Listen to the Basch podcast. He is clearly ticked with how Ohio State handled him.

 

 

[1032004]

46 minutes ago, Not creative name said:

in the most recent interview Welsh basically said he wants to train with the best so he can be the best.  i could see others adapting this mentality; sacrifice a year or two as B string but then when it is your time to shine you lay the hammer on everybody and bonus your way through NCAAs. i'm not saying Welsh won't make the starting lineup next season, but he is smart with his long term thinking.

why be a 3 or 4 mid-tier NCAA placer when you can be a 1 or 2 time champ. i'd definitely pick the latter, not to mention the invaluable learned skills for a post collegiate career. 

will others follow suit and sit the bench for guaranteed later career glory?

He pretty much agreed with one of my posts when he said something like “if i can’t start at Penn State, then I’m not accomplishing my goals of being the best in the world.”

But he also said he was frustrated watching his tOSU teammates compete when he wasn’t.

So it will be interesting to see what happens if by chance he doesn’t start and if he gets similarly frustrated.  I didn’t realize he trained at the same club or something as Ryder?

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

2 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

He pretty much agreed with one of my posts when he said something like “if i can’t start at Penn State, then I’m not accomplishing my goals of being the best in the world.”

But he also said he was frustrated watching his tOSU teammates compete when he wasn’t.

So it will be interesting to see what happens if by chance he doesn’t start and if he gets similarly frustrated.  I didn’t realize he trained at the same club or something as Ryder?

I think he was frustrated that he wasn’t even given an option to compete at 174 or 184. Based on Ohio States results there (both guys went 0-2 BBQ) at NCAAs, it’s assured Welsh would have been a better choice. 

[Boring]

3 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

He pretty much agreed with one of my posts when he said something like “if i can’t start at Penn State, then I’m not accomplishing my goals of being the best in the world.”

But he also said he was frustrated watching his tOSU teammates compete when he wasn’t.

So it will be interesting to see what happens if by chance he doesn’t start and if he gets similarly frustrated.  I didn’t realize he trained at the same club or something as Ryder?

Why was he frustrated at watching his teammates compete? I'm assuming he voluntarily redshirted. If the staff forced him to RS I could understand. Is that what happened, he was forced to RS? 

[Not creative name]

6 minutes ago, Boring said:

Why was he frustrated at watching his teammates compete? I'm assuming he voluntarily redshirted. If the staff forced him to RS I could understand. Is that what happened, he was forced to RS? 

i took that whole interview as a nice way to say "OSU blows. i want daily PSU competition."

i honestly don't think it had anything to do with redshirting or not. he knows OSU is not going to get him where he wants to be. even if he would have wrestled this year, unless he won NCAAs, i don't think there was any chance he was staying regardless.

the give away was he him saying he didn't understand the recruitment process when he first did it. that is code for, "i made the WRONG decision."

Edited Monday at 12:45 AM by Not creative name

[pokemonster]

31 minutes ago, Not creative name said:

i took that whole interview as a nice way to say "OSU blows. i want daily PSU competition."

i honestly don't think it had anything to do with redshirting or not. he knows OSU is not going to get him where he wants to be. even if he would have wrestled this year, unless he won NCAAs, i don't think there was any chance he was staying regardless.

the give away was he him saying he didn't understand the recruitment process when he first did it. that is code for, "i made the WRONG decision."

Boo friggen hoo. Chances of him wrestling as a true freshman at PSU were slim to none if he went there. Ohio State did him a favor then he threw a hissy fit when it was his turn to redshirt. He had an extremely favorable draw at NCAAs and got a big head over being the runner up, clearly. Nobody knew Kharchla would underperform in the way he did. Don't kids usually want to redshirt and get a free year of development? Chance at more titles. 

[Caveira]

1 hour ago, The Kid said:

Apparently  Rocco is a walk on and will have to pay for his membership to the nlwc as well.

1000% bs.   But hey.  

[pokemonster]

2 hours ago, Caveira said:

1000% bs.   But hey.  

They also say Ono is getting zero in NIL cuz "foreign athletes can't get NIL by rule". Stevan Micic in his YouTube video said they're definitely getting him a bag one way or another. 

[1032004]

10 hours ago, Boring said:

Why was he frustrated at watching his teammates compete? I'm assuming he voluntarily redshirted. If the staff forced him to RS I could understand. Is that what happened, he was forced to RS? 

He seems to be implying he doesn’t think it was so voluntary.  Don’t know the whole story 

[Boring]

52 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

He seems to be implying he doesn’t think it was so voluntary.  Don’t know the whole story 

Wow, if that's the case then I don't blame him for being pissed. At least he won't be rusty, he wrestled in 3 open tournaments last season and didn't spend the whole RS year just vegetating in the room. 

[JimmyCinnabon]

12 hours ago, VakAttack said:

He's being paid in Schrute bucks.

What is the ratio of Schrute bucks to Stanley nickels?

[BAC]

11 hours ago, Caveira said:

1000% bs.   But hey.  

Hey look on the bright side. With Ryder and Welsh on the same team, that’s one less guy to whoop Ferrari so now he has a chance to make the finals.

[Elevator]

Whole idea of NIL is to be disruptive and reset the market dyanmics in favor of allowing economic opportunities for athletes. Opportunities were too long denied them by NCAA and schools that kept the $$ and had preposterous anti-competitive rules.  Good that all programs and supporters should feel vulnerable to PSU as it will make them at least considering how to compete.   

[1032004]

7 hours ago, Boring said:

Wow, if that's the case then I don't blame him for being pissed. At least he won't be rusty, he wrestled in 3 open tournaments last season and didn't spend the whole RS year just vegetating in the room. 

Here was the article from when the initial rumors started.  According to Ryan, he could wrestle off for 174 but not until December because Kharchla was injured.

https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/13272402-tom-ryan-clears-the-air-on-rocco-welsh-transfer-speculation

[BruceyB]

19 hours ago, Not creative name said:

in the most recent interview Welsh basically said he wants to train with the best so he can be the best.  i could see others adapting this mentality; sacrifice a year or two as B string but then when it is your time to shine you lay the hammer on everybody and bonus your way through NCAAs. i'm not saying Welsh won't make the starting lineup next season, but he is smart with his long term thinking.

why be a 3 or 4 mid-tier NCAA placer when you can be a 1 or 2 time champ. i'd definitely pick the latter, not to mention the invaluable learned skills for a post collegiate career. 

will others follow suit and sit the bench for guaranteed later career glory?

Guaranteed later career glory? If you aren't making the line-up now, there's just as good of a chance a new young hammer or transfer will come in and take the spot you "thought" was going to be yours.