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David Taylor's reoccurring nightmare

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BruceyB NCAA All-American

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  On 3/7/2025 at 3:11 AM, RawDog said:

Jordan Williams! Two big ranked top ten wins over lamer and stiles. Taylor gave up on him way too early. 

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Taylor didn't "give up" on Jordan Williams. Williams actions resulted in his dismissal from the team. It never had anything to do with his ability on the mat. An incoming coach needs to set a precedent of expectations.

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Offthemat Big Brain

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Williams has been both good and inconsistent.  I wouldn’t be surprised to hear that DT had a role in him going to LR.  He couldn’t stay at OSU, but he landed at a good school with a good coach, who has connections to OSU. 

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okokzach NCAA Qualifier

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I bet DT is happy for Jordan, as pretty much all OSU fans are. Jordan, likewise, has said he is thankful for DT and staff and still has a great relationship with his former teammates.

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RawDog State Champion

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  On 3/7/2025 at 3:42 AM, BruceyB said:

Taylor didn't "give up" on Jordan Williams. Williams actions resulted in his dismissal from the team. It never had anything to do with his ability on the mat. An incoming coach needs to set a precedent of expectations.

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Well Taylor did give up on him though.  He booted him from the team.  Props to Erisman for being a good coach to his wrestlers on and off the mat and helping Jordan to succeed.  Little Rock is killing it!

Hammerlock3 Big Brain

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  On 3/7/2025 at 4:24 AM, okokzach said:

I bet DT is happy for Jordan, as pretty much all OSU fans are. Jordan, likewise, has said he is thankful for DT and staff and still has a great relationship with his former teammates.

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this and the OP are delusional

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"Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."

okokzach NCAA Qualifier

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  On 3/7/2025 at 4:35 AM, Hammerlock3 said:

this and the OP are delusional

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I made 4 statements. 3 are verifiably true. So I assume you take issue with my guess that DT is happy for Jordan. I don't know why he wouldn't be. The OSU staff helped Jordan search for a new program to wrestle at and he ended up wrestling for a former Cowboy. Jordan was dealing with some tough issues that required some tough decisions. He's clearly in a better place now.

Interviewed_at_Weehawken Big Brain

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  On 3/7/2025 at 5:27 AM, okokzach said:

I made 4 statements. 3 are verifiably true. So I assume you take issue with my guess that DT is happy for Jordan. I don't know why he wouldn't be. The OSU staff helped Jordan search for a new program to wrestle at and he ended up wrestling for a former Cowboy. Jordan was dealing with some tough issues that required some tough decisions. He's clearly in a better place now.

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I could be wrong, but I think "this" meant he agreed with you!

Pinnacle NCAA Champion

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  On 3/7/2025 at 4:24 AM, okokzach said:

I bet DT is happy for Jordan, as pretty much all OSU fans are. Jordan, likewise, has said he is thankful for DT and staff and still has a great relationship with his former teammates.

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Pretty sure you are correct. Sometimes a school/coach and a particular wrestler at a specific point in time just aren't the right fit.

NotThatDave Varsity

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  On 3/7/2025 at 3:11 AM, RawDog said:

Jordan Williams! Two big ranked top ten wins over lamer and stiles. Taylor gave up on him way too early. 

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David Taylor's goal is to compete for national championships, not second-tier conference championships. Jordan Williams doesn't make OSU any better. He is maybe a nutsack hair better than Carter Young, and Young isn't getting arrested repeatedly. The two parties separated on good terms, but you (I assume an unaffiliated third party) seem to be the only one hurt by the situation. That's loser behavior. Be better.

PortaJohn Big Brain

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  On 3/7/2025 at 2:05 PM, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

You may be giving Ham a lot of credit!

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Now that you've referred to Ham as Ham, moving forward I will not be able to get the picture of Ham out of my head every time I see Ham post

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scourge165 Big Brain

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  On 3/7/2025 at 3:57 AM, 666 said:

Williams is an R16 guy at best. 

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So...the BEST he could do as a Soph is...exactly what he did last year despite just beating two top 10 ranked kids who he'd lost to earlier in the season?

It's also sooo clear how talented this kid is.

 

How do you come to that conclusion? I'm genuinely curious?

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ionel Big Brain

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  On 3/7/2025 at 4:30 AM, RawDog said:

Well Taylor did give up on him though.  He booted him from the team. 

 

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How do you know?  Report is he damaged university property and it was a least strike 3.  How do you know DT even had a say in it and not simply a university decision? 

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Gus Big Brain

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  On 3/7/2025 at 2:14 PM, scourge165 said:

So...the BEST he could do as a Soph is...exactly what he did last year despite just beating two top 10 ranked kids who he'd lost to earlier in the season?

It's also sooo clear how talented this kid is.

 

How do you come to that conclusion? I'm genuinely curious?

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His duck under's are so smooth and vintage OK State. He is a great scrambler and proficient in mat wrestling. IF he can put it all together he is going to be a major problem for anyone in the weight class (as we saw yesterday with Lamer and Stiles).

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Konquest State Qualifier

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JW got arrested multiple times for alcohol related incidents, something Williams takes personal responsibility for and doesn't dispute.  At a certain point, a coaches' hands are tied when it comes to dismissing a student-athlete.  Much better wrestlers, including national finalists/champions, have been kicked off their teams.

alex1fly College Starter

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"Reoccurring nightmare" is so off-base. JW is benefitting from the change of scenery. The coaching staff was bold enough to help him do just that and then helped him land somewhere too, now JW is doing well. That is a success story, not a nightmare.

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poke1 State Qualifier

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JW is really a good kid and owns his past.  He's learning from it and it shows.  I hope and would not be surprised if he AA's this year.  

ionel Big Brain

ionel

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  On 3/7/2025 at 11:20 PM, poke1 said:

JW is really a good kid and owns his past.  He's learning from it and it shows.  I hope and would not be surprised if he AA's this year.  

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I'm hopeful there's a NC in his future.  

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MadMardigain College Redshirt

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  On 3/7/2025 at 3:11 AM, RawDog said:

Jordan Williams! Two big ranked top ten wins over lamer and stiles. Taylor gave up on him way too early. 

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Something tells me if this ended up waking the kid up and he’s on a more consistent path then Taylor is fine with how the decision turned out.  Hard lessons and fresh starts are sometimes necessary. 

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