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Posted
6 hours ago, Fred said:

Maybe if he wasn’t 19 and still in high school law enforcement would have let it slide 

I wonder if he wouldn’t have gotten charged if he had accepted the suspension…

Posted
36 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

I wonder if he wouldn’t have gotten charged if he had accepted the suspension…

Was it the same judge?

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Posted
7 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

I don't think the NJSIAA or whatever the alphabet soup organization is involved in charging him.

I think the ask is if the police would have not charged him if Knox had not challenged the suspension.  One would hope that criminal charging would be based on the facts of the incident, and not on the later attitude of the accused.

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Posted
11 hours ago, okokzach said:

I didn't look at the victims ID, but it was pretty clear on the video.  If they say the victim was a minor, the Knox assaulted a minor.  Clearly knew whom he was going after; so I imagine there was degree of premeditation.  Went a few rows up and several yards to the left where the fracas involving Mr. Knox was taking place and made a beeline straight for the kid who was covering up in a fetal position.  All of this taking place five feet from a cop.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, BigRedFan said:

I think the ask is if the police would have not charged him if Knox had not challenged the suspension.  One would hope that criminal charging would be based on the facts of the incident, and not on the later attitude of the accused.

There was a cop five feet away from whatever we decide to call what Anthony was doing.  They took young Mr. Knox out in cuffs.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Will this affect his admission to Cornell University and the Ivy League?

I don't think there is an Ivy League policy of assault charges.  Cornell, maybe.  I think he is planning to "greyshirt," so that could factor in. 

(I have personally seen students have their admissions to less competitive institutions revoked for lesser things.  I now Mike Grey has spoke, but he is not in admissions and that was before charges were filed.  The kid may end up fine or they could say "admission based on good behavior over gap year" or any number of things.)

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38 minutes ago, BigRedFan said:

I think the ask is if the police would have not charged him if Knox had not challenged the suspension.  One would hope that criminal charging would be based on the facts of the incident, and not on the later attitude of the accused.

In the hearing the lawyer for the NJSIAA said the police had detained him and his father only and were completing their investigation before deciding to whether to charge anyone. You can read their delay as based on the later attitude of the accused, or as being extra certain given that he has hired a high profile attorney and has already gone to court, so we better be sure we have this right.

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Posted
48 minutes ago, BigRedFan said:

I think the ask is if the police would have not charged him if Knox had not challenged the suspension.  One would hope that criminal charging would be based on the facts of the incident, and not on the later attitude of the accused.

Yes, but with the suspension I could certainly see the police thinking something like “he’s missing out on his 4th state title, that is probably enough punishment.”  But instead he seems to be taking the stance that he doesn’t regret what he did.

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Posted

This has nothing to do with anything, but I am curious about how the districts are set up in NJ. Why is St. John Vianney from way up past Marlborough Township wrestling in a district tournament 75 miles away outside of Camden? 

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I am not a fan of the claim that "he got baited into the attack".

The fact that he is a 19 year old adult, whether in high school or not, going into the stands to assault a minor (no matter what age the minor is) is not a good thing or a wise decision.  Student athletes have been removed from tournaments/athletic eligibility for way more minor issues.  We have seen way too many athletes never face consequences for their actions and it becomes a problem as they travel down the road of life. The father obviously never learned that lesson, and by filing and winning an injunction the kid is not learning either.

I have no axe to grind in this, not from NJ, and actually am a Cornell fan to some degree.  Anthony Knox being allowed to wrestle for his 4th state title is a travesty and should be seen as such, can't understand those who see him as being allowed to wrestle as a "win".

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Posted
1 minute ago, Spladle88 said:

Anthony Knox being allowed to wrestle for his 4th state title is a travesty and should be seen as such, can't understand those who see him as being allowed to wrestle as a "win".

No doubt. I'm actually quite shocked he was allowed to wrestle after going into the stands and assaulting someone. That is wild. 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, BarSeries said:

No doubt. I'm actually quite shocked he was allowed to wrestle after going into the stands and assaulting someone. That is wild. 

I did not watch the court proceedings, but some did.  My understanding is that there was talk of some video being official and perhaps others not being admissible.  I suppose it is possible that they didn't look at the video of him making a bee line to the "minor" for the alleged assault. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

I don't think there is an Ivy League policy of assault charges.  Cornell, maybe.  I think he is planning to "greyshirt," so that could factor in. 

 

Shirt type On scholarship? Can play? Can practice? Meaning
Redshirt Yes No Yes Athlete sits from competition for a year, then gets another year to complete four seasons.
Grayshirt No No No Athlete waits an extra semester to become a full-time student and part of the team.
Blueshirt Yes No Yes Athlete is not formally recruited, but is put on scholarship at start of freshman practice.
Greenshirt Yes Yes Yes Athlete enrolls in school a semester early.

 

what's the reasoning for the possible grey shirt ?

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2 minutes ago, GimJustafan said:
Shirt type On scholarship? Can play? Can practice? Meaning
Redshirt Yes No Yes Athlete sits from competition for a year, then gets another year to complete four seasons.
Grayshirt No No No Athlete waits an extra semester to become a full-time student and part of the team.
Blueshirt Yes No Yes Athlete is not formally recruited, but is put on scholarship at start of freshman practice.
Greenshirt Yes Yes Yes Athlete enrolls in school a semester early.

 

what's the reasoning for the possible grey shirt ?

Cornell does it with a ton of guys including Nashon, Dean, Vito (I think).  They can't redshirt in Ivy.  Helps him get ready for college competition.  Can help alleviate potential logjams in lineup.

I don't think the posted chart is accurate.  It is more than a semester; it is a whole year.  Traditionally they have taken community college classes.

Posted
1 hour ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Cornell does it with a ton of guys including Nashon, Dean, Vito (I think).  They can't redshirt in Ivy.  Helps him get ready for college competition.  Can help alleviate potential logjams in lineup.

Only Shapiro and Yianni have been true freshmen in the recent past.  A number of reasons to grey shirt, including using a year to get to a higher level of D1 wrestling and/or getting better academically (not all greyshirts are actually yet accepted!).

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Posted
1 minute ago, BigRedFan said:

Only Shapiro and Yianni have been true freshmen in the recent past.  A number of reasons to grey shirt, including using a year to get to a higher level of D1 wrestling and/or getting better academically (not all greyshirts are actually yet accepted!).

And not a greyshirt, but Shapiro was up training with the RTC his senior year of high school, correct?  Just another creative way of doing things.

Posted
8 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

And not a greyshirt, but Shapiro was up training with the RTC his senior year of high school, correct?  Just another creative way of doing things.

There've been a few of them (IIRC, Josh Saunders trained at the OTC in Colorado or something like that), including non-Cornell recruits.  They are the rarity, for obvious reasons.

Posted
5 hours ago, 1032004 said:

I wonder if he wouldn’t have gotten charged if he had accepted the suspension…

Police and the DA:   Wait that little shyte didn’t accept a suspension from a governing body that has nothing to do with them …

 

Shyte go book em Danno lol.  

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