2025 Transfer Portal

[Caveira]

Just now, JimmySpeaks said:

They’re adults that can vote, fight and die for their country. 

I am an adult.  I can get drafted.  You don’t need my OTE boss.  

[JimmySpeaks]

Just now, Caveira said:

I am an adult.  I can get drafted.  You don’t need my OTE boss.  

You’re not playing a sport at a publicly funded university 

[Caveira]

Just now, JimmySpeaks said:

You’re not playing a sport at a publicly funded university 

I did at one point.  And the university isn’t paying them nil

[JimmySpeaks]

Why is everyone so scared of transparency?? 

[JimmySpeaks]

Just now, Caveira said:

I did at one point.  And the university isn’t paying them nil

So did I.  And I had nothing to hide. 

[Wrestleknownothing]

4 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

I know exactly who pays them. People hired and or appointed by the university 

Nope.

But thank you for confirming that you do not have any idea what you are talking about.

[JimmySpeaks]

Who hires the wrestling club coaches ? 

[JimmySpeaks]

2 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

So did I.  And I had nothing to hide. 

NIL is coming from their own name/image and likeness 

[JimmySpeaks]

6 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Nope.

But thank you for confirming that you do not have any idea what you are talking about.

Still waiting for you to answer the question

Edited April 3, 2025 by JimmySpeaks

[Wrestleknownothing]

Just now, JimmySpeaks said:

Still waiting for you to newer the question

Review my past posts. I already answered your questions. No need to keep waiting.

[JimmySpeaks]

Who appoints the people running the fundraiser entities that pay these athletes? 

[JimmySpeaks]

Just now, Wrestleknownothing said:

Review my past posts. I already answered your questions. No need to keep waiting.

I have.  Still waiting. 

[Wrestleknownothing]

3 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

I have.  Still waiting. 

Just hang on. Don't go anywhere. Stay right here. 

[JimmySpeaks]

46 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

The universities do not yet pay the athletes. NIL $'s do not come from the universities themselves. The coaches absolutely have a say in who gets paid by whoever makes the payments (NIL collectives, individual boosters, maybe even businesses), but the money is not the university's to give. And it is not theirs to make public.

When (if) the House settlement is approved next week, that will change in some places and not in others. Then at least some of the numbers will likely be published by public universities. But that will only affect direct payments from the schools. NIL will still be private.

If it’s their athlete it’s theirs to make public.  Sounds like what I’m asking for is coming soon huh? 

[MidniteToka]

54 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Why does there need to be an end?  I know what my congressperson makes. What my mayor makes. Even what the president makes.  Why not what a college university athlete makes ?  

That's very naive.  What you know is these people's SALARY.  That's only a part of "how much they make".  (The bigger the crook, the larger the difference.)

[JimmySpeaks]

9 minutes ago, MidniteToka said:

That's very naive.  What you know is these people's SALARY.  That's only a part of "how much they make".  (The bigger the crook, the larger the difference.)

Level A - 401k match as a % based on years of service plus medical/life

Level B -  see above plus bonus 

Level C - See above plus stock options/Retiree Medical 

Level D - See above plus pension

Level E - See above plus RSU’s 

Level F - See above plus Buyout 

 

Edited April 3, 2025 by JimmySpeaks

[JimmySpeaks]

37 minutes ago, Caveira said:

But we don’t.  They are kids.   You don’t need to know my salary.  I don’t need to know yours.  I don’t want to know wkn’s.   I may want to know the crustaceans but this is the wrong board for that.  
 

let’s start over why on earth do we need to know what they’re getting.  Cause we’re fans on the internet message boards???    Crazy man.  We just don’t.  It’s not our business.  
 

this is sport.   The back and forth I hate Iowa I hate psu is water cooler sports nonsense.  It’s barely even relevant to life.   We argue cause we are fans.  But we have no business knowing financials of what kids make.  

I don’t hate Iowa or Penn st or anyone that’s doing what they’re doing.  Have at it. Just do it with transparency.  Why isn’t that a good thing ?  

[MidniteToka]

24 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Level A - 401k match as a % based on years of service plus medical/life

Level B -  see above plus bonus 

Level C - See above plus stock options/Retiree Medical 

Level D - See above plus pension

Level E - See above plus RSU’s 

Level F - See above plus Buyout 

 

 

[JimmySpeaks]

Just now, MidniteToka said:

 

Naive to facts is what you are.  

[NotThatDave]

You all have completely highjacked this thread, with an utterly boring topic of conversation. Start a new one somewhere else. 

[ionel]

Just now, NotThatDave said:

You all have completely highjacked this thread, with an utterly boring topic of conversation. Start a new one somewhere else. 

Donto be that Dave. 

[BruceyB]

2 hours ago, Caveira said:

But we don’t.  They are kids.   You don’t need to know my salary.  I don’t need to know yours.  I don’t want to know wkn’s.   I may want to know the crustaceans but this is the wrong board for that.  
 

let’s start over why on earth do we need to know what they’re getting.  Cause we’re fans on the internet message boards???    Crazy man.  We just don’t.  It’s not our business.  
 

this is sport.   The back and forth I hate Iowa I hate psu is water cooler sports nonsense.  It’s barely even relevant to life.   We argue cause we are fans.  But we have no business knowing financials of what kids make.  

I'm not going to sugar coat this. I think @JimmySpeaks is a complete imbecile. But I do agree that what students are earning directly from Universities (once the monet is no longer being laundered through collectives/boosters etc) should be public knowlege. College is now professional sports and just like in the NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB, etc. where contracts are disclosed publicly, so too should the money college athletes are making so that there is a more fair market value. I don't know if you or Wkn agree or disagree with that sentiment. In the current landscape, there is no reason to disclose NIL deals, but once money is coming directly from the institutions, IMO, that changes everything.

Edited April 3, 2025 by BruceyB

[Eagle26]

7 hours ago, VakAttack said:

I know YOU think that. Some of your PSU brethren though....

 

Anyway, moving on, I've been batting around the idea of transfer fees to ameliorate some of the small school losses.  What are your thoughts?  I had thought either flat fee based on finalist, AA, or NQ.  Or a direct percentage of NIL contract (this would require some level of disclosure, obviously).

I think that is a great idea. I like a percentage of the NIL deal has to go to the university that they are coming from. That way anytime someone AAs from a small school, they at least get something in return when someone else poaches them. But then again, PSU has the most guys transferring now, so I guess the rich will still get richer

[HoosierWrestlingFan]

Can you guys please take your discussion on the perils of NIL to another thread? It would be super awesome if the thread on the transfer portal was focused on the athletes in the portal and where they are going. There are hundreds, probably thousands of people who come to these forums for updated information and informative discussion about the sport, but these super long irrelevant arguments really ruins the forum experience for those non-members who just come here for the must current info.

[Wrestleknownothing]

7 hours ago, BruceyB said:

I'm not going to sugar coat this. I think @JimmySpeaks is a complete imbecile. But I do agree that what students are earning directly from Universities (once the monet is no longer being laundered through collectives/boosters etc) should be public knowlege. College is now professional sports and just like in the NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB, etc. where contracts are disclosed publicly, so too should the money college athletes are making so that there is a more fair market value. I don't know if you or Wkn agree or disagree with that sentiment. In the current landscape, there is no reason to disclose NIL deals, but once money is coming directly from the institutions, IMO, that changes everything.

I feel like you did sugar coat that.