Penn State's "Murderer's Row" 2025 edition

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

141 #1 Bartlett

149 #2 SVN

157 #1 Kasak

165 #1 Mesenbrink

174 #2 Haines

184 #1 Starocci

197 #2 Barr

HWT #2 Kerk

8 guys in a row that are top 2...not too shabby.  Barr and Kerk could conceivably move to #1 if they win Big 10s.

Is this the longest "Murderer's Row" ever or did Iowa or Ok State have one longer than 8?

 

Edited 6 hours ago by Jimmy Cinnabon

[Gene Mills Fan]

5 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

141 #1 Bartlett

149 #2 SVN

157 #1 Kasak

165 #1 Mesenbrink

174 #2 Haines

184 #1 Starocci

197 #2 Barr

HWT #2 Kerk

8 guys in a row that are top 2...not too shabby.  Barr and Kerk could conceivably move to #1 if they win Big 10s.

Is this the longest "Murderer's Row" ever or did Iowa or Ok State have one longer than 8?

 

i don't know If anyone has more ones and two's; But it should be illegal!!

Edited 6 hours ago by Gene Mills Fan

[Tyler]

I just went through the rankings. This lineup is dicey 

[SocraTease]

The marching beat of the lineup is a bit off: 1-2, 1-1, 2-1, 2-2. 

It needs to be adjusted at either Big Tens or NCAAs to a more rhythmic 1-2 pattern. 

Or perhaps it is just Cael having fun with dissonance and idiosyncrasy .

[666]

16 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

141 #1 Bartlett

149 #2 SVN

157 #1 Kasak

165 #1 Mesenbrink

174 #2 Haines

184 #1 Starocci

197 #2 Barr

HWT #2 Kerk

8 guys in a row that are top 2...not too shabby.  Barr and Kerk could conceivably move to #1 if they win Big 10s.

Is this the longest "Murderer's Row" ever or did Iowa or Ok State have one longer than 8?

 

Plus Lilledahl will probably AA, and Opie has a decent chance of making AA as well. 

[666]

7 minutes ago, SocraTease said:

The marching beat of the lineup is a bit off: 1-2, 1-1, 2-1, 2-2. 

It needs to be adjusted at either Big Tens or NCAAs to a more rhythmic 1-2 pattern. 

Or perhaps it is just Cael having fun with dissonance and idiosyncrasy .

Cael is apparently a fan of jazz. 

[JimmyCinnabon]

2 minutes ago, 666 said:

Cael is apparently a fan of jazz. 

I am pretty sure he was quoted as saying, "I like wrestling and all that jazz" one time.

[666]

2 minutes ago, JimmyCinnabon said:

I am pretty sure he was quoted as saying, "I like wrestling and all that jazz" one time.

 

[Gene Mills Fan]

14 minutes ago, 666 said:

Plus Lilledahl will probably AA, and Opie has a decent chance of making AA as well. 

you need to find that Opie picture for 'separated at birth'

[666]

1 minute ago, Gene Mills Fan said:

you need to find that Opie picture for 'separated at birth'

I already posted one for him yesterday. 

[Gene Mills Fan]

1 hour ago, 666 said:

I already posted one for him yesterday. 

but that wasn't: Ron Howard /Opie Taylor!     but I just looked Opie has too many freckles

[666]

4 minutes ago, Gene Mills Fan said:

but that wasn't: Ron Howard /Opie Taylor!     but I just looked Opie has too many freckles

I was going to use an Opie pic, but Davis doesn't have freckles or red hair. He does, however, look like he's 9 years old, so I just put a random little blonde kid in there! 

[SocraTease]

How does Penn State's 2025 Murder's Row compare with these lineups? 

[Gus]

Closest might have been last years PSU (141-285) or '85 or '86 Hawkeyes for an eight man run.

2023-2024 PSU

141- Barlett 2nd

149- Kasak 3rd

157- Haines 1st

165- Mesenbrink 2nd

174- Starocci 1st

184- Truax 5th

197- Brooks 1st

285- Kerkvliet 1st

Avg place from 141-285 = 2

 

https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/12905474-every-iowa-wrestling-roster-since-1973

1985-86 Season

NCAA Finish: 1st
Big Ten: 1st
Head Coach: Dan Gable

118: No representation
126: Brad Penrith, 1st
134: Greg Randall, 2nd
142: Kevin Dresser, 1st
150: Jim Heffernan, 1st
158: Royce Alger, 5th
167: Marty Kistler, 1st
177: Rico Chiapparelli, 4th
190: Duane Goldman, 1st
UNL: Mark Sindlinger, DNQ

Avg place from 126-190 = 2

1984-85 Season
NCAA Finish: 1st
Big Ten Finish: 1st
Head Coach: Dan Gable

118: Matt Egeland, 2nd
126: Barry Davis, 1st
134: Greg Randall, 5th
142: Kevin Dresser, 4th
150: Jim Heffernan, 2nd
158: Marty Kistler, 1st
167: Lindley Kistler, 5th
177: Rico Chiapparelli, 5th
190: Duane Goldman, 2nd
UNL: Steve Wilbur, NQ

Avg place from 126-190 = 3.125

[scorenomore]

4 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

141 #1 Bartlett

149 #2 SVN

157 #1 Kasak

165 #1 Mesenbrink

174 #2 Haines

184 #1 Starocci

197 #2 Barr

HWT #2 Kerk

8 guys in a row that are top 2...not too shabby.  Barr and Kerk could conceivably move to #1 if they win Big 10s.

Is this the longest "Murderer's Row" ever or did Iowa or Ok State have one longer than 8?

 

Second fiddel's row!

I only see likely champ at 184.  Everyone else I would put in the semis and not at the top of the podium.

Corrected - champs at 165 and and 184!  Only way MM doesn' win is if Tonya Harding's crew comes out of retirement and I probably still pick him to win!

Edited 1 hour ago by scorenomore
bad eyes

[Wrestleknownothing]

5 minutes ago, scorenomore said:

Second fiddel's row!

I only see likely champ at 184.  Everyone else I would put in the semis and not at the top of the podium.

 

You have bad eyes.

Kinda like Mesenbrink.

[BruceyB]

5 minutes ago, scorenomore said:

Second fiddel's row!

I only see likely champ at 184.  Everyone else I would put in the semis and not at the top of the podium.

 

Yeah, I couldn't imagine Mesenbrink winning nationals. His tech over the #2 leaves me with some doubts.

[scorenomore]

Sorry, yes, my eye's missed that one, 100% stand corrected!

[PSUDad97]

19 minutes ago, scorenomore said:

Second fiddel's row!

I only see likely champ at 184.  Everyone else I would put in the semis and not at the top of the podium.