What the heck happened to Michigan?

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

How did they fall off a cliff so quickly?  Basically all their 6th year grad transfers left and now they suck again?

[flyingcement]

Injuries

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

1 minute ago, flyingcement said:

Injuries

Did the team bus run off the road?  Shocking how l

[CGriff]

They bought their whole team last year and they all graduated 

[poorwrestler]

They’re also a very young team currently. Bright future especially at 141-165. Not sure what’s going on at 125 and what the long term plans are at 174+ though.


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[Hammerlock3]

Semly looks worse

[MlCHIGANMADE]

The next two years they got real good recruiting classes coming in so if they don't get better in the next three years or so I think it's time to get a new coach

[MlCHIGANMADE]

9 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

Semly looks worse

Yeah I don't understand that either when his training partner is micic... you would think you would get a lot better with that kind of training partner

[Mr. PeanutButter]

1 minute ago, MlCHIGANMADE said:

The next two years they got real good recruiting classes coming in so if they don't get better in the next three years or so I think it's time to get a new coach

Brother, Sean MF Bormet is a MF "G" and will not be disrespected so. He has been good for Michigan. There's probably 2, maybe 3 at most, coaches that could perform better. 

[MlCHIGANMADE]

Brock Mantanona is probably like the third most talented overall wrestler on the team... I heard he's dominating saldate and his bro Beau in the room all day but they chose to leave the shirt on them he had like five or six top 15 wins earlier in the season so he should be really good next year and then I'm sure his brother will move up to 174 and I think that Catrabone is going to be better than Gilcher...Walters is 16-5 internments this year and should be much better at 184 than bullock...We get Ragusin back... so next year should be a little better if not it's definitely on the coaching

[MlCHIGANMADE]

5 minutes ago, Mr. PeanutButter said:

Brother, Sean MF Bormet is a MF "G" and will not be disrespected so. He has been good for Michigan. There's probably 2, maybe 3 at most, coaches that could perform better. 

 

5 minutes ago, Mr. PeanutButter said:

Brother, Sean MF Bormet is a MF "G" and will not be disrespected so. He has been good for Michigan. There's probably 2, maybe 3 at most, coaches that could perform better. 

I'm not putting him down at all but I'm just saying if the team doesn't get better in the next few years and the good wrestlers arent progressing then obviously there's an issue with the coaching

[Hammerlock3]

23 minutes ago, MlCHIGANMADE said:

Yeah I don't understand that either when his training partner is micic... you would think you would get a lot better with that kind of training partner

Yeah I just remember him being so gritty....

[Pinnacle]

45 minutes ago, Mr. PeanutButter said:

Brother, Sean MF Bormet is a MF "G" and will not be disrespected so. He has been good for Michigan. There's probably 2, maybe 3 at most, coaches that could perform better. 

Bormet cost Cardenas the match vs Barr. Just imo he shoulda cut him loose in OT.

[RawDog]

5 hours ago, MlCHIGANMADE said:

Yeah I don't understand that either when his training partner is micic... you would think you would get a lot better with that kind of training partner

Are u sure he is training with Micic? 

[1032004]

8 hours ago, flyingcement said:

Injuries

Who got injured besides Ragusin?

[MlCHIGANMADE]

6 hours ago, RawDog said:

Are u sure he is training with Micic? 

When he's in town he is for sure.  I see them training all the time on each other's Instagram stories Michigan wrestling Instagram stories

[MlCHIGANMADE]

11 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said:

Yeah I just remember him being so gritty....

 exactly last year he was attacking like crazy and scoring a lot even guys techfalled last year and wrestled them this year they were close matches.  After that real woods match last year was supposed to be his coming out party which he did do well after that all his losses were close to good guys.  He didn't have the NCAA tournament they expected and since then he just hasn't seen like the same wrestlers last year but hopefully it's just something that will pass with time

[MlCHIGANMADE]

6 hours ago, RawDog said:

Are u sure he is training with Micic? 

He also wrestles with real woods a lot so he's got good training partners it must be something in his head mentally

[ionel]

12 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

How did they fall off a cliff so quickly?  Basically all their 6th year grad transfers left and now they suck again?

They just need a dedicated poster and they'll be fine.  Maybe dip into the portal and throw some coin.   

[Hammerlock3]

31 minutes ago, MlCHIGANMADE said:

He also wrestles with real woods a lot so he's got good training partners it must be something in his head mentally

he was better when no one knew his name.

[Sheerstress]

13 hours ago, poorwrestler said:

They’re also a very young team currently. Bright future especially at 141-165. Not sure what’s going on at 125 and what the long term plans are at 174+ though.


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I would think the Mantanonas will split 165 and 174 over the next three years.  So 141 - 174 are pretty well covered.  Several other good recruits coming in, but uncertain how they'll work out.

[scourge165]

12 hours ago, Pinnacle said:

Bormet cost Cardenas the match vs Barr. Just imo he shoulda cut him loose in OT.

Cardenas is a former Cornell Wrestler. I'm told they're smart. 

He's also a Sr and he's wrestled 3 NCAA Tournaments already. 

 

If the expectation is for you to do your best coaching yelling to your Wrestlers while Wrestling...that's pretty unrealistic. 

 

[Hammerlock3]

24 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

Cardenas is a former Cornell Wrestler. I'm told they're smart. 

He's also a Sr and he's wrestled 3 NCAA Tournaments already. 

 

If the expectation is for you to do your best coaching yelling to your Wrestlers while Wrestling...that's pretty unrealistic. 

 

Yeah I even posted how stupid it was at the time, but really when you're in the 10th minute of a match, wrestling on the edge of knife so to speak, momentary lapses in judgment aren't an indication of stupidity or cowardice.

I would say a mistake like that makes me want to say things like "he'll never make the finals", but thats not an especially bold claim anyway.

[Pinnacle]

3 hours ago, scourge165 said:

Cardenas is a former Cornell Wrestler. I'm told they're smart. 

He's also a Sr and he's wrestled 3 NCAA Tournaments already. 

 

If the expectation is for you to do your best coaching yelling to your Wrestlers while Wrestling...that's pretty unrealistic. 

 

I don't get the whole yelling at your wrestler thing either but plenty of that happens.