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Which Bout Are You Most Looking Forward To (Iowa at PSU)?

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Which bout are you most looking forward to?  

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  1. 1. Which bout are you most looking forward to?

    • 157 Teemer v Parco - The most evenly matched
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    • 197 Buchanon v Barr - #1 senior who doesn't melt against #4 freshman who melts guys
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    • 184 Arnold v Starocci - The Beheading
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Pa in Taiwan State Placer

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Why would the original question narrow the bouts down to three matches: two where the Iowa wrestler is ranked #1, and include NO matches in which the PSU wrestler is ranked #1? I mean, the lack of a choice of Messenbrink (#1) vs. Caliendo (#2) shows strong disrespect to Mikey Caliendo, who is undefeated and having a fantastic season. In addition, why isn't Haines (#2) vs. Kennedy (#6) there? Ayala (#3) vs. Davis (#7)? How about Parco (#2) against who he is really wrestling, Van Ness (#4)? 

I'm not sure if the original question assumes that these aren't going to be competitive matches, which to me would be a grave mistake. 

Rutgers came out against PSU and some of their guys left it ALL out on the mat. I imagine that Iowa will do the same. Caliendo is going to give it all against Messenbrink. I don't see a major there. It will be closer than last year's matches. I don't think Caliendo has enough to get the job done, but it will be exciting.

I think Kasak will take out Teemer. 

I don't see Arnold having what it takes to give Starocci a loss. 

My favorite will be Barr vs. Buchanon. I will be pulling for Barr. If he wins, he will go on to win B10s and Nationals, go undefeated this season, and be in position to best Cael with an undefeated university career including the red shirt year. 

Barr has to attack the entire match like he did in the third period against Rutgers. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

BruceyB NCAA All-American

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  On 1/31/2025 at 8:13 AM, Pa in Taiwan said:

I mean, the lack of a choice of Messenbrink (#1) vs. Caliendo (#2) shows strong disrespect to Mikey Caliendo, who is undefeated and having a fantastic season.

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I picked Mesenbrink to tech Caliendo. If he doesn't score bonus, feel free to tag me and I'll owe you an apology. Caliendo is a great wrestler, but Mesenbrink is going to crush him. Call it disrespect if you wish.

Wrestleknownothing Big Brain

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  On 1/31/2025 at 8:13 AM, Pa in Taiwan said:

Why would the original question narrow the bouts down to three matches: two where the Iowa wrestler is ranked #1, and include NO matches in which the PSU wrestler is ranked #1? I mean, the lack of a choice of Messenbrink (#1) vs. Caliendo (#2) shows strong disrespect to Mikey Caliendo, who is undefeated and having a fantastic season. In addition, why isn't Haines (#2) vs. Kennedy (#6) there? Ayala (#3) vs. Davis (#7)? How about Parco (#2) against who he is really wrestling, Van Ness (#4)? 

I'm not sure if the original question assumes that these aren't going to be competitive matches, which to me would be a grave mistake. 

Rutgers came out against PSU and some of their guys left it ALL out on the mat. I imagine that Iowa will do the same. Caliendo is going to give it all against Messenbrink. I don't see a major there. It will be closer than last year's matches. I don't think Caliendo has enough to get the job done, but it will be exciting.

I think Kasak will take out Teemer. 

I don't see Arnold having what it takes to give Starocci a loss. 

My favorite will be Barr vs. Buchanon. I will be pulling for Barr. If he wins, he will go on to win B10s and Nationals, go undefeated this season, and be in position to best Cael with an undefeated university career including the red shirt year. 

Barr has to attack the entire match like he did in the third period against Rutgers. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I chuckled that after all that you still picked one of the three.

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TylerDurden College Starter

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  On 1/31/2025 at 8:13 AM, Pa in Taiwan said:

Why would the original question narrow the bouts down to three matches: two where the Iowa wrestler is ranked #1, and include NO matches in which the PSU wrestler is ranked #1? I mean, the lack of a choice of Messenbrink (#1) vs. Caliendo (#2) shows strong disrespect to Mikey Caliendo, who is undefeated and having a fantastic season. In addition, why isn't Haines (#2) vs. Kennedy (#6) there? Ayala (#3) vs. Davis (#7)? How about Parco (#2) against who he is really wrestling, Van Ness (#4)? 

I'm not sure if the original question assumes that these aren't going to be competitive matches, which to me would be a grave mistake. 

Rutgers came out against PSU and some of their guys left it ALL out on the mat. I imagine that Iowa will do the same. Caliendo is going to give it all against Messenbrink. I don't see a major there. It will be closer than last year's matches. I don't think Caliendo has enough to get the job done, but it will be exciting.

I think Kasak will take out Teemer. 

I don't see Arnold having what it takes to give Starocci a loss. 

My favorite will be Barr vs. Buchanon. I will be pulling for Barr. If he wins, he will go on to win B10s and Nationals, go undefeated this season, and be in position to best Cael with an undefeated university career including the red shirt year. 

Barr has to attack the entire match like he did in the third period against Rutgers. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Did you see the Mesenbrink v Caliendo matches last season? It's about as mismatched 1 v2 bout as you can get. 

TylerDurden College Starter

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  On 1/31/2025 at 3:51 PM, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

An entertaining 17-9 NCAA semi.  I've seen much, much more lopsided #1 v #2

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You may have see more lopsided 1 v 2 matches - I'll take your word for it - but Mesenbrink was in catch and release mode in that NCAA match after the first period and has owned the matchup.

Regardless, the point is that Caliendo hasn't shown any reason in their previous encounters for that match to be listed as a poll option for the one people are most interested in during the PSU/Iowa dual over the others WKN selected - which was the Pa in Taiwan's point. 

The three results:

1. 12-6 (Dual at Iowa)

2. 23-7 TF (B1G)

3. 17-9 MD (NCAA Semi)

Hammerlock3 Big Brain

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  On 1/31/2025 at 6:59 AM, BruceyB said:

I'd be shocked if Arnold came out at 174, but I'm all for it. Being vague seems to be the Iowa way.

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if this were some sort of mystery movie...it would be the obvious twist.

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MidwestMan State Champion

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Barr vs Buchanan.  The young upstart against the Callised vet.  Every year there is that individual that dreams about being the next 4 timer.  For a time, Gabe Arnold was making that prediction.  Guess he will get a sample tonight.

Going to be fun to watch.

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  On 1/31/2025 at 10:20 PM, RawDog said:

Man the eye test is telling me caliendo vs Messinbrink is gonna be a lot more competitive than people think

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I think Caliendo will get at least one takedown, perhaps a reversal, probably will score a bunch of escapes.  I don't see any other 165 being as good as these two.  Mesenbrink obviously with an advantage, but I think you're right that the gap isn't very wide.  

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