Pa in Taiwan Posted Friday at 08:13 AM Posted Friday at 08:13 AM Why would the original question narrow the bouts down to three matches: two where the Iowa wrestler is ranked #1, and include NO matches in which the PSU wrestler is ranked #1? I mean, the lack of a choice of Messenbrink (#1) vs. Caliendo (#2) shows strong disrespect to Mikey Caliendo, who is undefeated and having a fantastic season. In addition, why isn't Haines (#2) vs. Kennedy (#6) there? Ayala (#3) vs. Davis (#7)? How about Parco (#2) against who he is really wrestling, Van Ness (#4)? I'm not sure if the original question assumes that these aren't going to be competitive matches, which to me would be a grave mistake. Rutgers came out against PSU and some of their guys left it ALL out on the mat. I imagine that Iowa will do the same. Caliendo is going to give it all against Messenbrink. I don't see a major there. It will be closer than last year's matches. I don't think Caliendo has enough to get the job done, but it will be exciting. I think Kasak will take out Teemer. I don't see Arnold having what it takes to give Starocci a loss. My favorite will be Barr vs. Buchanon. I will be pulling for Barr. If he wins, he will go on to win B10s and Nationals, go undefeated this season, and be in position to best Cael with an undefeated university career including the red shirt year. Barr has to attack the entire match like he did in the third period against Rutgers.
BruceyB Posted Friday at 08:54 AM Posted Friday at 08:54 AM 38 minutes ago, Pa in Taiwan said: I mean, the lack of a choice of Messenbrink (#1) vs. Caliendo (#2) shows strong disrespect to Mikey Caliendo, who is undefeated and having a fantastic season. I picked Mesenbrink to tech Caliendo. If he doesn't score bonus, feel free to tag me and I'll owe you an apology. Caliendo is a great wrestler, but Mesenbrink is going to crush him. Call it disrespect if you wish.
Wrestleknownothing Posted Friday at 12:51 PM Author Posted Friday at 12:51 PM 4 hours ago, Pa in Taiwan said: Why would the original question narrow the bouts down to three matches: two where the Iowa wrestler is ranked #1, and include NO matches in which the PSU wrestler is ranked #1? I mean, the lack of a choice of Messenbrink (#1) vs. Caliendo (#2) shows strong disrespect to Mikey Caliendo, who is undefeated and having a fantastic season. In addition, why isn't Haines (#2) vs. Kennedy (#6) there? Ayala (#3) vs. Davis (#7)? How about Parco (#2) against who he is really wrestling, Van Ness (#4)? I'm not sure if the original question assumes that these aren't going to be competitive matches, which to me would be a grave mistake. Rutgers came out against PSU and some of their guys left it ALL out on the mat. I imagine that Iowa will do the same. Caliendo is going to give it all against Messenbrink. I don't see a major there. It will be closer than last year's matches. I don't think Caliendo has enough to get the job done, but it will be exciting. I think Kasak will take out Teemer. I don't see Arnold having what it takes to give Starocci a loss. My favorite will be Barr vs. Buchanon. I will be pulling for Barr. If he wins, he will go on to win B10s and Nationals, go undefeated this season, and be in position to best Cael with an undefeated university career including the red shirt year. Barr has to attack the entire match like he did in the third period against Rutgers. I chuckled that after all that you still picked one of the three. 1 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
Ragu Posted Friday at 03:39 PM Posted Friday at 03:39 PM Looking forward to all my predictions to come true
MPhillips Posted Friday at 03:46 PM Posted Friday at 03:46 PM 11 hours ago, RawDog said: That might explain arnolds less than stellar performance against Ohio state Maybe it was Rogotzke... .
TylerDurden Posted Friday at 03:46 PM Posted Friday at 03:46 PM 7 hours ago, Pa in Taiwan said: Why would the original question narrow the bouts down to three matches: two where the Iowa wrestler is ranked #1, and include NO matches in which the PSU wrestler is ranked #1? I mean, the lack of a choice of Messenbrink (#1) vs. Caliendo (#2) shows strong disrespect to Mikey Caliendo, who is undefeated and having a fantastic season. In addition, why isn't Haines (#2) vs. Kennedy (#6) there? Ayala (#3) vs. Davis (#7)? How about Parco (#2) against who he is really wrestling, Van Ness (#4)? I'm not sure if the original question assumes that these aren't going to be competitive matches, which to me would be a grave mistake. Rutgers came out against PSU and some of their guys left it ALL out on the mat. I imagine that Iowa will do the same. Caliendo is going to give it all against Messenbrink. I don't see a major there. It will be closer than last year's matches. I don't think Caliendo has enough to get the job done, but it will be exciting. I think Kasak will take out Teemer. I don't see Arnold having what it takes to give Starocci a loss. My favorite will be Barr vs. Buchanon. I will be pulling for Barr. If he wins, he will go on to win B10s and Nationals, go undefeated this season, and be in position to best Cael with an undefeated university career including the red shirt year. Barr has to attack the entire match like he did in the third period against Rutgers. Did you see the Mesenbrink v Caliendo matches last season? It's about as mismatched 1 v2 bout as you can get.
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted Friday at 03:50 PM Posted Friday at 03:50 PM 3 minutes ago, MPhillips said: Maybe it was Rogotzke... Yes, especially since Rogotzke was like a lifetime 2-0 against Arnold and is EXTREMELY dangerous. 1
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted Friday at 03:51 PM Posted Friday at 03:51 PM 4 minutes ago, TylerDurden said: Did you see the Mesenbrink v Caliendo matches last season? It's about as mismatched 1 v2 bout as you can get. An entertaining 17-9 NCAA semi. I've seen much, much more lopsided #1 v #2
Gene Mills Fan Posted Friday at 03:51 PM Posted Friday at 03:51 PM 11 minutes ago, Ragu said: Looking forward to all my predictions to come true I got the same winners; but I'm not wanting to see your bonus points!
TylerDurden Posted Friday at 04:14 PM Posted Friday at 04:14 PM 13 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: An entertaining 17-9 NCAA semi. I've seen much, much more lopsided #1 v #2 You may have see more lopsided 1 v 2 matches - I'll take your word for it - but Mesenbrink was in catch and release mode in that NCAA match after the first period and has owned the matchup. Regardless, the point is that Caliendo hasn't shown any reason in their previous encounters for that match to be listed as a poll option for the one people are most interested in during the PSU/Iowa dual over the others WKN selected - which was the Pa in Taiwan's point. The three results: 1. 12-6 (Dual at Iowa) 2. 23-7 TF (B1G) 3. 17-9 MD (NCAA Semi)
Hammerlock3 Posted Friday at 04:20 PM Posted Friday at 04:20 PM 9 hours ago, BruceyB said: I'd be shocked if Arnold came out at 174, but I'm all for it. Being vague seems to be the Iowa way. if this were some sort of mystery movie...it would be the obvious twist. "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
Hammerlock3 Posted Friday at 04:21 PM Posted Friday at 04:21 PM 35 minutes ago, MPhillips said: Maybe it was Rogotzke... I thought he looked about 9.2 pound bigger than Arnold! "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
MPhillips Posted Friday at 04:26 PM Posted Friday at 04:26 PM 5 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: I thought he looked about 9.2 pound bigger than Arnold! You're a rascal... .
Hammerlock3 Posted Friday at 04:29 PM Posted Friday at 04:29 PM 2 minutes ago, MPhillips said: You're a rascal... No way its so close otherwise! Too well coached!!! "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
MPhillips Posted Friday at 04:48 PM Posted Friday at 04:48 PM 10 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: No way its so close otherwise! Too well coached!!! Rogotzke is 2-1 against him... 1 .
Wrestleknownothing Posted Friday at 07:53 PM Author Posted Friday at 07:53 PM 3 minutes ago, CHROMEBIRD said: Starnold 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
MidwestMan Posted Friday at 08:24 PM Posted Friday at 08:24 PM Barr vs Buchanan. The young upstart against the Callised vet. Every year there is that individual that dreams about being the next 4 timer. For a time, Gabe Arnold was making that prediction. Guess he will get a sample tonight. Going to be fun to watch.
RawDog Posted Friday at 10:20 PM Posted Friday at 10:20 PM Man the eye test is telling me caliendo vs Messinbrink is gonna be a lot more competitive than people think 1
flyingcement Posted Friday at 10:32 PM Posted Friday at 10:32 PM 10 minutes ago, RawDog said: Man the eye test is telling me caliendo vs Messinbrink is gonna be a lot more competitive than people think I think Caliendo will get at least one takedown, perhaps a reversal, probably will score a bunch of escapes. I don't see any other 165 being as good as these two. Mesenbrink obviously with an advantage, but I think you're right that the gap isn't very wide.
Pinnacle Posted Friday at 10:49 PM Posted Friday at 10:49 PM 1. Barr vs Buchanon 2. Kasak vs Teemer 3. Van Ness vs Parco 4. Starocci's post match press conf.
Wrestleknownothing Posted Friday at 11:02 PM Author Posted Friday at 11:02 PM Ferrari v Starocci anyone? 1 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
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