VT vs Ok State Thursday Dual

[ionel]

if Mullen were as good as Shultz wouldn't he have wrestled?

[D3 for LU]

Goodnite, everybody!

D3

[Offthemat]

Only the Young Fish lost. 

[ionel]

  On 12/20/2024 at 2:54 AM, Offthemat said:

Only the Young Fish lost. 

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is that what minnow predicted?

[MPhillips]

  On 12/20/2024 at 2:54 AM, Offthemat said:

Only the Young Fish lost. 

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and BJM...

[Offthemat]

  On 12/20/2024 at 2:59 AM, ionel said:

is that what minnow predicted?

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I didn’t see his prediction. 

[1032004]

  On 12/20/2024 at 2:53 AM, ionel said:

if Mullen were as good as Shultz wouldn't he have wrestled?

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Well Schultz lost to Hendrickson, so not necessarily.  Probably have to call this a duck though

[1032004]

I need to rewatch that 197 SV to see how close Smith was to getting the danger count(s).

Also thought Fish may have been pinned on Hipolito’s first throw.

But great showing by OSU.

[ionel]

  On 12/20/2024 at 11:25 AM, 1032004 said:

I need to rewatch that 197 SV to see how close Smith was to getting the danger count(s).

Also thought Fish may have been pinned on Hipolito’s first throw.

But great showing by OSU.

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It was pretty close on both.

[MPhillips]

  On 12/20/2024 at 11:23 AM, 1032004 said:

Probably have to call this a duck though

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[nhs67]

This dual went about as I expected.

[nhs67]

I expected Henson to come out pissed off because he couldn't do jack against Young.

I picked Fish in that toss-up.

Every other match went damn near to a T on what I thought.

Source:

[nhs67]

  On 12/20/2024 at 1:32 PM, MPhillips said:

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Canadian Goose?

[1032004]

  On 12/20/2024 at 2:22 PM, nhs67 said:

This dual went about as I expected.

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For some reason I thought Fish was more of a low risk guy, am I wrong on that?  I know Hipolito’s style may have encouraged some of the craziness there but it almost seemed like Fish was going for just as much crazy stuff as Hipolito (even early in the match before he got down big)

[nhs67]

  On 12/20/2024 at 2:26 PM, 1032004 said:

For some reason I thought Fish was more of a low risk guy, am I wrong on that?  I know Hipolito’s style may have encouraged some of the craziness there but it almost seemed like Fish was going for just as much crazy stuff as Hipolito (even early in the match before he got down big)

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Fish leaves himself open for the errant throws here and there.  Bearclaw got him last year on one very similar, and I think he is trusting the process with DT and just letting it fly this year.

He is nowhere near as locked down and disciplined as Amine is.

[ionel]

  On 12/20/2024 at 1:32 PM, MPhillips said:

It it walks like a...

and it talks like a...

WTF could it be but a...

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... maybe a loon 

[okokzach]

  On 12/20/2024 at 2:25 PM, nhs67 said:

I expected Henson to come out pissed off because he couldn't do jack against Young.

I picked Fish in that toss-up.

Every other match went damn near to a T on what I thought.

Source:

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Wow, nice picks! I went 10 for 10 on who would win, but didn't get as many of the dec/maj/tech/fall choices right and finished with 56 points, #7 overall

[ionel]

  On 12/20/2024 at 2:30 PM, nhs67 said:

Fish leaves himself open for the errant throws here and there.  Bearclaw got him last year on one very similar, and I think he is trusting the process with DT and just letting it fly this year.

He is nowhere near as locked down and disciplined as Amine is.

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... disciplined or stubborn?  Does Amine know about the tech fall?

[1032004]

Outside of all the OSU compliments, this may have been the highlight move of the  dual.  Crazy that Hipolito might actually be more fun to watch than Andonian.

 

[nhs67]

  On 12/20/2024 at 3:49 PM, okokzach said:

 

Wow, nice picks! I went 10 for 10 on who would win, but didn't get as many of the dec/maj/tech/fall choices right and finished with 56 points, #7 overall

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Badass on 10 for 10!  I am biased towards Fish, being a Michigander by way of Michigan State.  I know it is a toss-up and I know that Hip is at his ideal weight now.

[nhs67]

  On 12/20/2024 at 3:51 PM, ionel said:

... disciplined or stubborn?  Does Amine know about the tech fall?

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Techfellery is a new addition to his vocab as of this last summer.  He is trying to work it in and I am told he will eventually do it.

[creek chub]

Did Surber take a full committed shot? Heck I don’t think he tried a half shot. That was  poorly officiated match and he should have been dinged for stalling 

[BruceyB]

  On 12/20/2024 at 5:35 PM, creek chub said:

Did Surber take a full committed shot? Heck I don’t think he tried a half shot. That was  poorly officiated match and he should have been dinged for stalling 

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IIRC Surber did take a few committed shots, but he never really go close to locking around a leg. I don't remember thinking that he should get hit, but I could be wrong if I rewatched the match. Regardless, Smith looked like the better wrestler in that match.

[okokzach]

  On 12/20/2024 at 4:50 PM, nhs67 said:

Badass on 10 for 10!  I am biased towards Fish, being a Michigander by way of Michigan State.  I know it is a toss-up and I know that Hip is at his ideal weight now.

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I think Fish would win a rematch. He made some mistakes and gave up back points twice. I think he reigns it in if they meet again 

[flyingcement]

  On 12/21/2024 at 12:59 AM, okokzach said:

I think Fish would win a rematch. He made some mistakes and gave up back points twice. I think he reigns it in if they meet again 

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A rematch would be interesting because they both had major takeaways:

1) Fish needs to stop going to his own back and generally thinking more about risk management when he is wrestling
2) Hipolito needs more conditioning because he died about halfway through the third period