Daniel Penny trial

[jross]

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The defense attorney, who repeatedly referred to his client as “Danny,” cast Penny as a protector of women and children on the subway.

He claimed that Neely “set his sights on a bench of female passengers” during his supposed fit of rage, eventually uttering the words “I will kill” towards a mother who was “barricading her son behind a baby stroller.”

https://www.courthousenews.com/daniel-penny-went-way-too-far-in-jordan-neely-subway-death-prosecutors-say-at-trial-start/

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/courthouse-news-service/ (highly factual, least biased)

[Caveira]

1 hour ago, Tripnsweep said:

Did he say he was going to kill anyone? Did he tell somebody he was going to kill them? 

Yes he did. 

[Bigbrog]

12 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Yes he did. 

Isn't it amazing that he is arguing about this...claiming how he claims he would act is exactly how every single person in the world should react...even while admitting to never being in their situation...what a joke!

[Offthemat]

It seems the world isn’t running right for @Tripnsweep.   Trump won the election and isn’t going to prison, Daniel Penny isn’t going to prison, but Luigi is.  All against his wishes. 

[Caveira]

@Tripnsweep

is this the non violent guy you speak of?

 

[Caveira]

@Tripnsweep

is this a threat?   Asking for a friend.  Couldn’t the banker just leave or ask the other dude to help?

I mean he doesn’t give a f about jail.   

[mspart]

But by all means, we need to be so concerned about such a powerful influence for good among the NYC citizens.   He should never have been out of jail to harass  and threaten people.   He was a danger to himself and others, as demonstrated by his arrest record. 

mspart

 

 

 

[WrestlingRasta]

5 hours ago, Tripnsweep said:

In my experience, it isn't uncommon if you use public transportation consistently to see that happen with some regularity. So I would guess that in a very large city like New York, where a lot of people rely on public transportation, seeing people acting crazy is much more likely. I don't think the threat of Bernie Goetz exactly deters crime or wrongdoing on the subway system either. 

So basically you’re doubling down on the idea that your experiences should parlay to everyone, even everyone in a completely different city with completely  different dynamics.   Because….you would guess.  
 

That is interesting. 

Edited December 10 by WrestlingRasta

[Caveira]

Daniel penny publicly speaks.    With Jeanine pirirro 
 

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTYuD7XBA/

[Lipdrag]

On 12/9/2024 at 9:40 PM, Tripnsweep said:

There is a difference between threatening somebody and saying things that could possibly be threatening. 

It depends on what the meaning of is is.

[mspart]

Classic Bill Clinton line.  

mspart

[Tripnsweep]

Next time I use public transportation and a homeless person becomes loud and obnoxious, I can rest easy knowing if I decide to strangle him to death I can get away with it. 

[WrestlingRasta]

8 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

Next time I use public transportation and a homeless person becomes loud and obnoxious, I can rest easy knowing if I decide to strangle him to death I can get away with it. 

For your sake, I would suggest that the person be doing a little bit more than loud obnoxious.  

[Tripnsweep]

3 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

For your sake, I would suggest that the person be doing a little bit more than loud obnoxious.  

Maybe if he's having a psychotic episode and ranting about how Coke and Pepsi are the same thing. 

[PortaJohn]

12 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

Maybe if he's having a psychotic episode and ranting about how Coke and Pepsi are the same thing. 

You're just going to have to take the L on this one.  I've read through your arguments and you haven't presented anything that is factually based on the information that has been released to the public thus far

[mspart]

Amen Bruddah PJ. 

mspart

[WrestlingRasta]

30 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

You're just going to have to take the L on this one.  I've read through your arguments and you haven't presented anything that is factually based on the information that has been released to the public thus far

That’s because when the facts don’t match with what we would hope, we twist the facts to make us feel better. 

[Tripnsweep]

3 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said:

That’s because when the facts don’t match with what we would hope, we twist the facts to make us feel better. 

The facts are simple.

A former Marine who has experience in hand to hand combat training killed somebody because he felt uncomfortable. 

[ionel]

1 hour ago, Tripnsweep said:

The facts are simple.

A former Marine who has experience in hand to hand combat training killed somebody because he felt uncomfortable. 

Did Penny ever say he felt uncomfortable?  Do you have AI coming up with this stuff or is this really you?  

[Tripnsweep]

9 minutes ago, ionel said:

Did Penny ever say he felt uncomfortable?  Do you have AI coming up with this stuff or is this really you?  

Obviously he felt uncomfortable enough to put him in a choke from behind and hold on to it long enough to kill him. If he had been attacked or threatened, then I could see it being justified, but it really wasn't. 

In a situation like that people who are acting crazy or yelling things are usually either having some kind of mental health issues or they want attention or something. I was in the grocery store a few months ago and the clerk at the self checkout started talking to himself saying some odd things and punched the ground. I think I showed remarkable restraint by not choking him to death because he was making me feel uncomfortable. 

The first thing you do, or if you don't you should, is assess the situation. You should be able to determine if somebody poses an actual threat pretty quickly. Calculate the risk of what action you're going to take. If you have to get into a physical confrontation, be ready to get hurt or hope that if this person uses drugs they don't have anything on them that could poke or stab you, they won't bite you or something else like that. Once you do that, then take appropriate action, which is usually letting the authorities know. NYC has transit police who deal with this. 

So physically confronting somebody who is having a bad day and talking crazy is something that isn't advisable. For a variety of reasons. The sad part is people are cheering this guy who essentially got away with homicide and treating him like a hero. 

[WrestlingRasta]

I guess you’ve seen this story on TV/SM,  so you were able to do a better assessment of the situation and his threat level, than the witnesses who were there and testified in court.  
 

I mean, you do have that experience of the grocery store guy talking to himself…
 

 

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

10 hours ago, Tripnsweep said:

Obviously he felt uncomfortable enough to put him in a choke from behind and hold on to it long enough to kill him. If he had been attacked or threatened, then I could see it being justified, but it really wasn't. 

In a situation like that people who are acting crazy or yelling things are usually either having some kind of mental health issues or they want attention or something. I was in the grocery store a few months ago and the clerk at the self checkout started talking to himself saying some odd things and punched the ground. I think I showed remarkable restraint by not choking him to death because he was making me feel uncomfortable. 

The first thing you do, or if you don't you should, is assess the situation. You should be able to determine if somebody poses an actual threat pretty quickly. Calculate the risk of what action you're going to take. If you have to get into a physical confrontation, be ready to get hurt or hope that if this person uses drugs they don't have anything on them that could poke or stab you, they won't bite you or something else like that. Once you do that, then take appropriate action, which is usually letting the authorities know. NYC has transit police who deal with this. 

So physically confronting somebody who is having a bad day and talking crazy is something that isn't advisable. For a variety of reasons. The sad part is people are cheering this guy who essentially got away with homicide and treating him like a hero. 

This is hilarious.  I have been in a couple potentially life and death situations, one involving a firearm and one where I had a strong reason to believe a firearm was about to be drawn.  Overall, I am happy with how I reacted in those situations including verbally removing a potential shooter to a location away from others and to where I was the only one in danger of being harmed.  I talked him down and he ended up being committed to a facility.  That was 25 years ago.  I know how I handled it then, and am proud of it.  I am no way certain how I would handle the exact situation today.  

You remind me of my supervisor who is 100% certain how she would handle an active shooter situation in my place of employment.  99% of us can talk a big game about such situations, but we don't know what we will do when the s____ hits the fan.  Myself included.

[PortaJohn]

20 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

This is hilarious.  I have been in a couple potentially life and death situations, one involving a firearm and one where I had a strong reason to believe a firearm was about to be drawn.  Overall, I am happy with how I reacted in those situations including verbally removing a potential shooter to a location away from others and to where I was the only one in danger of being harmed.  I talked him down and he ended up being committed to a facility.  That was 25 years ago.  I know how I handled it then, and am proud of it.  I am no way certain how I would handle the exact situation today.  

You remind me of my supervisor who is 100% certain how she would handle an active shooter situation in my place of employment.  99% of us can talk a big game about such situations, but we don't know what we will do when the s____ hits the fan.  Myself included.

100%...Countless studies done on this very subject and it's surprising how so many people do not have the self awareness that you do

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

7 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

100%...Countless studies done on this very subject and it's surprising how so many people do not have the self awareness that you do

Thank you.  I have mentally gone back to that day a couple decades ago and wondered if I could still do what I did then.  I honestly don't know!

[ionel]

11 hours ago, Tripnsweep said:

Obviously he felt uncomfortable enough to put him in a choke from behind and hold on to it long enough to kill him. If he had been attacked or threatened, then I could see it being justified, but it really wasn't. 

In a situation like that people who are acting crazy or yelling things are usually either having some kind of mental health issues or they want attention or something. I was in the grocery store a few months ago and the clerk at the self checkout started talking to himself saying some odd things and punched the ground. I think I showed remarkable restraint by not choking him to death because he was making me feel uncomfortable. 

The first thing you do, or if you don't you should, is assess the situation. You should be able to determine if somebody poses an actual threat pretty quickly. Calculate the risk of what action you're going to take. If you have to get into a physical confrontation, be ready to get hurt or hope that if this person uses drugs they don't have anything on them that could poke or stab you, they won't bite you or something else like that. Once you do that, then take appropriate action, which is usually letting the authorities know. NYC has transit police who deal with this. 

So physically confronting somebody who is having a bad day and talking crazy is something that isn't advisable. For a variety of reasons. The sad part is people are cheering this guy who essentially got away with homicide and treating him like a hero. 

Ok it must be AI, the reply starts with a statement that obviously no one could know to be true and just builds on that.