Hammerlock3 Posted October 22 Posted October 22 34 minutes ago, nhs67 said: What do you mean that is a ridiculous strawman? A straw man fallacy (sometimes written as strawman) is the informal fallacy of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion. I always thought it was an argument poised against a non existent perspective. "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
nhs67 Posted October 22 Posted October 22 8 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: I always thought it was an argument poised against a non existent perspective. I copy/pasted the definition. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
Hammerlock3 Posted October 22 Posted October 22 8 minutes ago, nhs67 said: I copy/pasted the definition. no shit "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
Hammerlock3 Posted October 22 Posted October 22 (edited) duplicate Edited October 22 by Hammerlock3 1 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
D3 for LU Posted October 22 Posted October 22 20 hours ago, Pinnacle said: Does Cornell sell out all home duals? Do they do so with season ticket holders? Thye usually have most of their home duals at the Friedman Wrestling Center... it's small and intimate that would seat 900 wrestling fans. Friedman Wrestling Center - Facilities - Cornell University Athletics D3 Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.
JBluegill133 Posted October 22 Posted October 22 What would this years dual look like (obviously we will need to guess at some weights for who the starter will be etc.) "Look good, feel good, wrestle good." - J Jaggers
wrestlingfan22 Posted October 22 Posted October 22 19 minutes ago, JBluegill133 said: What would this years dual look like (obviously we will need to guess at some weights for who the starter will be etc.) guessing likely starters 125: LL vs Greggy D 133: Davis vs Ungar 141: Beau vs Cornella 149: SVN vs Fernandez 157: Kasak vs Shapiro 165: MM vs Ramirez (if second sem) 174: Levi vs Ruiz 184: Starocci vs Foca (Second Sem) 197: Barr vs Dellagatta 285: Kerk vs Davis 157 is the real one to watch. 184 could be fun also. Obviously not happening this year but could see those at NCAAs 1
Former158 Posted October 22 Author Posted October 22 1 hour ago, D3 for LU said: Thye usually have most of their home duals at the Friedman Wrestling Center... it's small and intimate that would seat 900 wrestling fans. Friedman Wrestling Center - Facilities - Cornell University Athletics D3 Most of Cornell's premier duals are held in Newman arena next door which seats about 4,500--they have gotten crowds close to capacity for duals in the past.
nhs67 Posted October 22 Posted October 22 2 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said: no shit I am just pointing out that what you thought it meant wasn't what it actually means. You aren't the only one who does that. Many people do that with many words all the time. Same team, Brosephino. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
JBluegill133 Posted October 22 Posted October 22 guessing likely starters 125: LL vs Greggy D 133: Davis vs Ungar 141: Beau vs Cornella 149: SVN vs Fernandez 157: Kasak vs Shapiro 165: MM vs Ramirez (if second sem) 174: Levi vs Ruiz 184: Starocci vs Foca (Second Sem) 197: Barr vs Dellagatta 285: Kerk vs Davis 157 is the real one to watch. 184 could be fun also. Obviously not happening this year but could see those at NCAAsLove these matchups….any true freshman for either team we could plug in for extra fireworks? (Love that they have 5 matches to play with for things like this) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk "Look good, feel good, wrestle good." - J Jaggers
D3 for LU Posted October 22 Posted October 22 24 minutes ago, Former158 said: Most of Cornell's premier duals are held in Newman arena next door which seats about 4,500--they have gotten crowds close to capacity for duals in the past. True dat... no need to triple or quadruple people sitting on each other at Friedman! (That can be rude! We hope they put the heaviest on the bottom if they do!) D3 Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Fred Posted October 22 Posted October 22 3 hours ago, nhs67 said: What do you mean that is a ridiculous strawman? A straw man fallacy (sometimes written as strawman) is the informal fallacy of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion. How about red herring, then? Le Duke is obviously trying to distract the discussion from its original topic, Penn state’s pathetically weak out of conference schedule
nhs67 Posted October 22 Posted October 22 45 minutes ago, JBluegill133 said: Love these matchups….any true freshman for either team we could plug in for extra fireworks? (Love that they have 5 matches to play with for things like this) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I don't think Cornell will play with them. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
Le duke Posted October 22 Posted October 22 22 minutes ago, Fred said: How about red herring, then? Le Duke is obviously trying to distract the discussion from its original topic, Penn state’s pathetically weak out of conference schedule Here, I'll say it: They have a weak out of conference schedule. Simultaneously, they also have the hardest schedule in the country. 1
nhs67 Posted October 22 Posted October 22 30 minutes ago, Fred said: How about red herring, then? Le Duke is obviously trying to distract the discussion from its original topic, Penn state’s pathetically weak out of conference schedule Red herring is great word usage, Fred. Their incredibly weak schedule had them beating Lehigh, who then turned around and beat Cornell a few weeks later, so perhaps they scheduled the better opponent? Also, their incredibly weak schedule had them going to opens and individual tournaments that had the #1 ranked team in the country at them, so they weren't actually that incredibly weak. At the end of the season, their incredibly weak schedule ended up setting them up to break the all time points record. Also, it was known going in to the season that they were going to take it very light leading up to the new year due to MFS and Olympic qualifying events being of a high priority. The two years prior they went to the premier dual tournament in the Collegiate Duals. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
PortaJohn Posted October 22 Posted October 22 5 minutes ago, nhs67 said: Red herring is great word usage, Fred. Their incredibly weak schedule had them beating Lehigh, who then turned around and beat Cornell a few weeks later, so perhaps they scheduled the better opponent? Also, their incredibly weak schedule had them going to opens and individual tournaments that had the #1 ranked team in the country at them, so they weren't actually that incredibly weak. At the end of the season, their incredibly weak schedule ended up setting them up to break the all time points record. Also, it was known going in to the season that they were going to take it very light leading up to the new year due to MFS and Olympic qualifying events being of a high priority. The two years prior they went to the premier dual tournament in the Collegiate Duals. @Fred & @Interviewed_at_Weehawken should start a podcast called, "WE HATE STATE" 1 I Don't Agree With What I Posted
CHROMEBIRD Posted October 22 Posted October 22 Hard to blame for Carl scheduling cautiously. He probably feels bitten by the late season injury bug: Starocci, Nolf, Suriano, Shak, Zain (FS)... They pay him to win matches and bring home hardware, so making wrestling fans happy probably isn't a huge priority.
CHROMEBIRD Posted October 22 Posted October 22 That said, it would be interesting if PSU's AD put in an incentive structure in his contract with bonuses based on home ticket sales or the sound meter exceeding xyz decibels or some benchmarks along those lines. Cael said last season that PSU's home duals are too quiet. His boss should incentivize him to build a better match day atmosphere and see what he comes up with.
Gus Posted October 22 Posted October 22 Hard to criticize anything that PSU is doing until they start losing. 1
JBluegill133 Posted October 22 Posted October 22 2 hours ago, wrestlingfan22 said: guessing likely starters 125: LL vs Greggy D 133: Davis vs Ungar 141: Beau vs Cornella 149: SVN vs Fernandez 157: Kasak vs Shapiro 165: MM vs Ramirez (if second sem) 174: Levi vs Ruiz 184: Starocci vs Foca (Second Sem) 197: Barr vs Dellagatta 285: Kerk vs Davis 157 is the real one to watch. 184 could be fun also. Obviously not happening this year but could see those at NCAAs Is Saunders still on the roster or did he already graduate? He was a big recruit coming out of HS but hasn't found the lineup consistently. Cant beat Cornella, can he cut to 133 and give a match or is he too big for that? "Look good, feel good, wrestle good." - J Jaggers
Caveira Posted October 22 Posted October 22 59 minutes ago, CHROMEBIRD said: Hard to blame for Carl scheduling cautiously. He probably feels bitten by the late season injury bug: Starocci, Nolf, Suriano, Shak, Zain (FS)... They pay him to win matches and bring home hardware, so making wrestling fans happy probably isn't a huge priority. Psu doesn’t have injuries only fun. The only team that can have injuries is Iowa lol. Why is kerk out of the all star meet? They don’t over train or even wrestle live I thought?
Hammerlock3 Posted October 22 Posted October 22 3 hours ago, nhs67 said: I am just pointing out that what you thought it meant wasn't what it actually means. You aren't the only one who does that. Many people do that with many words all the time. Same team, Brosephino. Yeah we're cool. 1 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted October 22 Posted October 22 2 hours ago, PortaJohn said: @Fred & @Interviewed_at_Weehawken should start a podcast called, "WE HATE STATE" No, put me on "I strongly hypocritical PSU fans, and enjoy pointing out their hypocrisy" Nolf and Taylor are two of my favorite college wrestlers ever. I liked John Fritz a lot and spent a weekend in State College at a coaches clinic. Jeff Prescott and Carl Destefanis were favorites of mine, and Kerry McCoy is one of the best guys I have met in the sport. But there were very few hypocritical fans back in the 80s and 90s and early 2000s.
nhs67 Posted October 23 Posted October 23 15 hours ago, PortaJohn said: @Fred & @Interviewed_at_Weehawken should start a podcast called, "WE HATE STATE" We should totally do it instead. We would piss off so many actual Stater Haters. Actually... can we call it Stater Haters? "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
nhs67 Posted October 23 Posted October 23 15 hours ago, CHROMEBIRD said: Hard to blame for Carl scheduling cautiously. He probably feels bitten by the late season injury bug: Starocci, Nolf, Suriano, Shak, Zain (FS)... They pay him to win matches and bring home hardware, so making wrestling fans happy probably isn't a huge priority. But are his tactics working? Has he even brought home a Team Title? Have any of his wrestlers even come close to winning a Natty? We'll never know. If only there was a measuring stick to determine this. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
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