Taylor flips another

[Camel Wrestling Fan]

25 minutes ago, ionel said:

C'mon man it was only a Pontiac Trans Am and what happened to SMU? 

They were just ahead of the times. Everyone legally does it now.

[Tripnsweep]

16 minutes ago, Camel Wrestling Fan said:

They were just ahead of the times. Everyone legally does it now.

"You call that cheating? I'll show you cheating!"- SMU in the early 80's

[lisa morales]

2 hours ago, Hillbilly Jim said:

Some people like cowtowns, as opposed to being surrounded by elitists.  Just saying….

LOL

[boconnell]

4 hours ago, lisa morales said:

Ironic that Cornell's head coach flipped from Lehigh to Cornell the day before classes started.  It is strange decommiting from an Ivy League school to go to Cowtown U. though.

Isn't like half of the Cornell team enrolled in the Ag program?

[lisa morales]

Cornell is considered the easy Ivy.  Lots of guts that kids can major in.

[billyhoyle]

People love to hate on Cornell here every time their fans point out how worse schools like Oklahoma State and Penn State are in comparison and how idiotic recruits and transfers are to go there instead. But who else is offering the opportunity to spend a year at community college and then graduate from a top 25 school in 7 years with an undergraduate degree in Aquaponics? 

Edited October 20 by billyhoyle

[Fletcher]

15 hours ago, Tripnsweep said:

Unless he signed with Cornell his commitment is just verbal. Tons of people in all sports have flipped past minute. One of the best football players at my alma mater was considered a lock to go to USC and then on signing day he flipped. 

Even you can't be that naive. 

If it's an Ivy and no scholarship involved, then there's nothing to sign and no legal commitment. He's just selecting a college just like every other HS senior out there and can change his mind right up until the college deadline (usually in May).

[Camel Wrestling Fan]

7 hours ago, Tripnsweep said:

"You call that cheating? I'll show you cheating!"- SMU in the early 80's

They were visionary! SMU set up the revenue sharing model the NCAA now uses!

[Tripnsweep]

46 minutes ago, Camel Wrestling Fan said:

They were visionary! SMU set up the revenue sharing model the NCAA now uses!

It was so widespread the future Governor of Texas got involved and didn't run for a second term because of this. 

[oldschool]

5 hours ago, Fletcher said:

If it's an Ivy and no scholarship involved, then there's nothing to sign and no legal commitment. He's just selecting a college just like every other HS senior out there and can change his mind right up until the college deadline (usually in May).

All ivy league colleges share a no-merit-based scholarship policy. e.g., only needs-based. So no sports scholarships which is one reason they're not usually as competitive in sports. (unless something has changed in the past 15 years since I was there)

Flipping aside, I think it's great that Taylor's able to bring so much great talent to OK State. Maybe with a few more years of these caliber recruiting classes, we'll see the PSU dominance start to level out?

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

On 10/20/2024 at 5:07 AM, Tripnsweep said:

Unless he signed with Cornell his commitment is just verbal. Tons of people in all sports have flipped past minute. One of the best football players at my alma mater was considered a lock to go to USC and then on signing day he flipped. 

Even you can't be that naive. 

No one signs with Cornell,  All their recruits are fair game until they step foot on campus for Fall classes, apparently.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

5 hours ago, oldschool said:

All ivy league colleges share a no-merit-based scholarship policy. e.g., only needs-based. So no sports scholarships which is one reason they're not usually as competitive in sports. (unless something has changed in the past 15 years since I was there)

Flipping aside, I think it's great that Taylor's able to bring so much great talent to OK State. Maybe with a few more years of these caliber recruiting classes, we'll see the PSU dominance start to level out?

Yes, but those need based aid packages tend to be excellent!

[1032004]

1 hour ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

No one signs with Cornell,  All their recruits are fair game until they step foot on campus for Fall classes, apparently.

Which would also include while they’re enrolled at community college grayshirting.  I bet we’ll probably see less of that now.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

7 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Which would also include while they’re enrolled at community college grayshirting.  I bet we’ll probably see less of that now.

Mason Gibson...

[BigRedFan]

11 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Mason Gibson...

That turned out so well for Mason and Erik, didn't it?

And what the heck is actually going on in this photo?

https://www.tribdem.com/sports/crushers-erik-gibson-signs-with-cornell-wrestling-program/article_5187c99c-5ded-11ec-b455-9393290d04db.html

 

[MNRodent]

32 minutes ago, BigRedFan said:

That turned out so well for Mason and Erik, didn't it?

And what the heck is actually going on in this photo?

https://www.tribdem.com/sports/crushers-erik-gibson-signs-with-cornell-wrestling-program/article_5187c99c-5ded-11ec-b455-9393290d04db.html

 

I can't speak for Cornell, but often these signings are just a photo op for the family.  A lot of kids in my local community do it whether they are going D3, NAIA or whatever.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

29 minutes ago, MNRodent said:

I can't speak for Cornell, but often these signings are just a photo op for the family.  A lot of kids in my local community do it whether they are going D3, NAIA or whatever.

Yes.  Actually a lot of the smaller schools want kids to "sign" because it is free publicity for the school when it is posted on social media.  I don't think Cornell is pushing that.  This was probably the family/McCort athletic department.

[1032004]

1 hour ago, BigRedFan said:

That turned out so well for Mason and Erik, didn't it?

 

They both still have 4 years of eligibility.  Although I suspect Erik probably won’t see the postseason if he stays at PSU

[boconnell]

3 hours ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

No one signs with Cornell,  All their recruits are fair game until they step foot on campus for Fall classes, apparently.

Good for Cornell.  I think everybody else's recruits are fair game long after they step on campus these days.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

4 minutes ago, boconnell said:

Good for Cornell.  I think everybody else's recruits are fair game long after they step on campus these days.

True!

[Winners Circle]

On 10/20/2024 at 2:40 AM, Husker_Du said:

so the transfer portal is fine, but kids flipping their commit before their senior year of hs starts is bad.

do i have this correct? 

Yea most people want the 17-18 year olds to be mature enough to choose the right school, and honor it. But don't hold the 20+ year olds to the same standard. It makes sense if you don't think about it.

[wrestle87]

The math on Ivy educations for athletes is going to change a GREAT deal unless ivies throw actual NIL at their kids.  

So many kids can walk away from their career with enough scratch to become entrepreneurs, that it saves them 5-7 years professionally.  Unless you are dead set on becoming so and so lawyer or business person, it really doesn't matter anymore.

A quarter to half a yard invested and cashflowing makes for a much more enjoyable 20's, 30's and 40's.  

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

12 minutes ago, wrestle87 said:

The math on Ivy educations for athletes is going to change a GREAT deal unless ivies throw actual NIL at their kids.  

So many kids can walk away from their career with enough scratch to become entrepreneurs, that it saves them 5-7 years professionally.  Unless you are dead set on becoming so and so lawyer or business person, it really doesn't matter anymore.

A quarter to half a yard invested and cashflowing makes for a much more enjoyable 20's, 30's and 40's.  

I don't think the Ivies and Alabama/Georgia/etc. are going after the same kids.  I don't think it will change that much.

[Elevator]

I have no information, but assume this was an NIL offer that Cornell did not or could not match.   Ithaca as "elitist" country makes me smile.   It is very pretty in the summer!

[BigRedFan]

1 hour ago, wrestle87 said:

The math on Ivy educations for athletes is going to change a GREAT deal unless ivies throw actual NIL at their kids.  

1) Schools don't throw actual NIL at anyone, at least not legally

2) Nothing is preventing outside agents from throwing actual NIL at anyone, as long as they meet NCAA- and institution-specific NIL guidelines

3) Given that all financial aid at an Ivy League school is need-based, any NIL monies need to be reported as taxable income, which could then affect said financial aid