blueandgold Posted October 10 Posted October 10 Per Merriam-Webster, when used in the context of discussing sports, a dynasty is a “sports franchise which has a prolonged run of successful seasons.” So, with that in mind, across all time, besides the obvious Iowa, Oklahoma State, and Penn State, which programs do you consider to be wrestling dynasties?
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted October 10 Posted October 10 OK State and Iowa are the only answers. Penn State is a recent mini-dynasty but it's really tiny compared to 34 and 24 for Ok State and Iowa.
Wrestleknownothing Posted October 10 Posted October 10 4 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: OK State and Iowa are the only answers. Penn State is a recent mini-dynasty but it's really tiny compared to 34 and 24 for Ok State and Iowa. 1 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
blueandgold Posted October 10 Author Posted October 10 3 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: OK State and Iowa are the only answers. Penn State is a recent mini-dynasty but it's really tiny compared to 34 and 24 for Ok State and Iowa. Are we only considering national championships for dynasties or can we make exceptions for conference championships as well? How much are we considering individual success? The reason I ask is because of teams like Minnesota or Cornell who have extended success with individuals, have beaten top teams, and in Minnesota’s case have done things like won the National Duals or beat Penn State H2H in 2014 when they won their fourth straight NCAA title.
Wrestleknownothing Posted October 10 Posted October 10 Missouri with the conference dynasty. They won the Big 12 or MAC twelve years in a row from 2012 - 2023. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
Wrestleknownothing Posted October 10 Posted October 10 (edited) Iowa State, Oklahoma St and Oklahoma are the near miss dynasties. Iowa State has 15 runner up finishes to 13 for Oklahoma State and 12 for Oklahoma. Edited October 10 by Wrestleknownothing Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
JeanGuy Posted October 10 Posted October 10 I usually look at dynasties by chunks of time. The Green Bay Packers were a dynasty in the 60's. They won 5 championships in that period (3 NFL Championships and 2 Super Bowls). All that said, OSU's NCAA run is pretty amazing. They have either been first or second 48 times in the 92 championships. That is pretty impressive no matter what the sport. 1
BigRedFan Posted October 10 Posted October 10 2 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Missouri with the conference dynasty. They won the Big 12 or MAC twelve years in a row from 2012 - 2023. Cornell won seventeen straight Ivy League titles from 2003-2019 (and eleven straight EIWA titles in that time). Yes, I know "Ivy League" is not strictly a conference, not having a conference tournament. 1
ionel Posted October 11 Posted October 11 (edited) 9 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Missouri with the conference dynasty. They won the Big 12 or MAC twelve years in a row from 2012 - 2023. SEC? Edited October 11 by ionel .
JBluegill133 Posted October 11 Posted October 11 Iowa State, Oklahoma St and Oklahoma are the near miss dynasties. Iowa State has 15 runner up finishes to 13 for Oklahoma State and 12 for Oklahoma. It would be nice to see OU get back to national prominence. They have a few studs on their roster that could help out. How long have Kish and crew been at the helm?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk "Look good, feel good, wrestle good." - J Jaggers
SoonerKing Posted October 11 Posted October 11 (edited) Kish only has 1 year at the helm. Unfortunately he lost his 2 best wrestlers from last year to other teams and both of them were there before he got there. None of *his* guys have produced yet. As started though he's had only 1 year at helm. He seems to have a plan to shape the team his way. Hopefully we start to see some success from it. He does deserve some grace and praying he delivers! Edited October 11 by SoonerKing
Wrestleknownothing Posted October 11 Posted October 11 2 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: Who has the best 3rd place dynasty? Same three schools, different order. Oklahoma State 16, Iowa State 13, Oklahoma 12 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted October 11 Posted October 11 (edited) 18 hours ago, BigRedFan said: Cornell won seventeen straight Ivy League titles from 2003-2019 (and eleven straight EIWA titles in that time). Yes, I know "Ivy League" is not strictly a conference, not having a conference tournament. It is now! Edited October 11 by Interviewed_at_Weehawken
JBluegill133 Posted October 11 Posted October 11 2 hours ago, SoonerKing said: Kish only has 1 year at the helm. Unfortunately he lost his 2 best wrestlers from last year to other teams and both of them were there before he got there. None of *his* guys have produced yet. As started though he's had only 1 year at helm. He seems to have a plan to shape the team his way. Hopefully we start to see some success from it. He does deserve some grace and praying he delivers! Quick glance at his roster...these names stuck out to me as qualifiers or better.... Beric Jordan - 125 Schwartz - 141 McDougald - 157 Picklo -165 Sax - 174 "Look good, feel good, wrestle good." - J Jaggers
Wrestleknownothing Posted October 11 Posted October 11 We can also talk in terms of coaching dynasties. Based on the all-time leaders in having coached All-Americans, we clearly do not talk about Harold Nichols nearly enough. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
Gus Posted October 11 Posted October 11 53 minutes ago, JBluegill133 said: Quick glance at his roster...these names stuck out to me as qualifiers or better.... Beric Jordan - 125 Schwartz - 141 McDougald - 157 Picklo -165 Sax - 174 Honestly, they have a fairly decent dual team top to bottom, but just lake the high end firepower. If Cleveland Belton can make the pull to 133 successfully, he should be a NQ. Deanthony Parker should be NQ at 184. Bradley Hill could be NQ at 197 and if Mora beat out Heindselman then he should be NQ at HWT. 1
JBluegill133 Posted October 11 Posted October 11 Honestly, they have a fairly decent dual team top to bottom, but just lake the high end firepower. If Cleveland Belton can make the pull to 133 successfully, he should be a NQ. Deanthony Parker should be NQ at 184. Bradley Hill could be NQ at 197 and if Mora beat out Heindselman then he should be NQ at HWT. Sneak 1-2 on podium and start getting a few more high level recruits looking your way? That’s the ticket! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk "Look good, feel good, wrestle good." - J Jaggers
D3 for LU Posted October 11 Posted October 11 6 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: Who has the best 3rd place dynasty? Easy... not you! D3 Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Wrestleknownothing Posted October 11 Posted October 11 Here is an interesting stat. For both Sanderson and Gable more than half of their AA's were finalists. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
CowboyYe2024 Posted October 14 Posted October 14 On 10/10/2024 at 1:02 PM, Wrestleknownothing said: Missouri with the conference dynasty. They won the Big 12 or MAC twelve years in a row from 2012 - 2023. its the Mac tho
NewYooper Posted October 14 Posted October 14 And Northern Iowa at one time won something like 23 straight Western Wrestling Conference/League/Region titles. So, that looks like a Dynasty to me. 1
ionel Posted October 16 Posted October 16 On 10/14/2024 at 10:52 AM, CowboyYe2024 said: its the Mac tho Big? .
SoonerKing Posted October 18 Posted October 18 Lol...Mora has never beat Heindselman. Mora is Kish guy and now has spot. Hoping my Sooners find their way!
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