Why are we flirting with WWIII?

[headshuck]

After the joke, reassure me we’re not inching closer to war with Russia and its allies?

 

[Offthemat]

By allies you mean China and Iran, correct?  Biden says “don’t” could there be a better deterrent?

[WrestlingRasta]

According to Trump today, Ukraine isn't even a country anymore, doesn't exist, and its all Ukraine's fault....so good news, shouldn't have to go to WW3

[headshuck]

Today Democrats voted with Republicans to rebuke Biden officials over the botched Afghanistan exit. These same officials might botch the situation with Ukraine and Russia.

[Scouts Honor]

we wont be equipped

 

[mspart]

If true, this is not good.   Such welders should be fired and any QA folks that didn't call it out should also be fired if true.   This is inexcusable if true.   Yet it will be excused for some stupid progressive reason if true.

mspart

[Scouts Honor]

btw, i watched Oppenheimer the other night.

Why are we flirting with WWIII? b/c we didn't listen to him.

and I still can't believe ...(thought I dont know all the political leanings of the stars)

the people who made the movie about a kangaroo court are surely disgusted with the way Opp was treated...

but I bet they cheer the current kangarooness 

[Husker_Du]

Ukraine is corrupt as the day is long. 

this war is a massive money laundering scheme.

[Caveira]

1 hour ago, Husker_Du said:

Ukraine is corrupt as the day is long. 

this war is a massive money laundering scheme.

And we just had the actor in charge in the good ol us of a campaigning for the left.  

[WrestlingRasta]

I wonder if Ukraine feels their plan to convince Russia to invade them and destroy their country so they could launder money is working?  
 

Ballsy strategy Cotton, let’s see if it pays off for them. 

[Saylors_Tiny_Willie]

On 9/25/2024 at 12:14 PM, headshuck said:

 

After the joke, reassure me we’re not inching closer to war with Russia and its allies?

 

 

 

Americans, by and large, aren't simpering cowards.

YMMV.

[Scouts Honor]

you must be signing up

[Scouts Honor]

based on the last post, im thinking TPT

[Caveira]

Why?    This guy is still running the country that’s why ……  introduces Zelenskyy as Putin.  He doesn’t know where he is….. no worries nothings wrong nothing to see here.   Keep on keeping on.

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTFSgH3Ga/

[Caveira]

A ton of cool recent SNL bits.   Ha.  If we win…..:: together ……. We can end the Dramala

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTFSgEaXV/

[billyhoyle]

How is what the U.S. is doing in Ukraine any different than what the USSR did in Vietnam to fund and arm North Vietnam? How is it any closer to WW3 than when the U.S. provided arms to Afghanistan when the USSR invaded Afghanistan? We were much closer to war with the Soviet Union then than we are with Russia now. 

There is a long history of proxy warfare not leading to direct war between countries, and the war in Ukraine is just another example of proxy warfare. Russia is trying to fulfill its own imperialistic goals of conquest, and the Western countries are arming Ukraine to prevent that conquest because they recognize that Poland, Moldova, and Estonia would be the next countries to be invaded. 

Some in this country unfortunately believe that Russia, Iran, and China are just in this conflict, and the U.S. is a force for bad in the world and should withdraw its support. It's analogous to how many in the U.S. took the side of the USSR throughout the cold war. 

Edited September 30 by billyhoyle

[Scouts Honor]

are you talking about tim walz?

[wrestlingguy]

10 hours ago, billyhoyle said:

How is what the U.S. is doing in Ukraine any different than what the USSR did in Vietnam to fund and arm North Vietnam? How is it any closer to WW3 than when the U.S. provided arms to Afghanistan when the USSR invaded Afghanistan? We were much closer to war with the Soviet Union then than we are with Russia now. 

There is a long history of proxy warfare not leading to direct war between countries, and the war in Ukraine is just another example of proxy warfare. Russia is trying to fulfill its own imperialistic goals of conquest, and the Western countries are arming Ukraine to prevent that conquest because they recognize that Poland, Moldova, and Estonia would be the next countries to be invaded. 

Some in this country unfortunately believe that Russia, Iran, and China are just in this conflict, and the U.S. is a force for bad in the world and should withdraw its support. It's analogous to how many in the U.S. took the side of the USSR throughout the cold war. 

We have sent more than $175 Billion at this point. What is the end goal? Has Ukraine made any progress? Is there accountability anywhere for where all that money is going?

Edited September 30 by wrestlingguy

[Scouts Honor]

we have only sent $52 billion? 

[Scouts Honor]

since 2022 52b

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF12040#:~:text=Since then%2C the United States,) (see Table 1).

[wrestlingguy]

2 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

we have only sent $52 billion? 

Nope. $175B. My number was way off.

[billyhoyle]

11 hours ago, wrestlingguy said:

We have sent more than $175 Billion at this point. What is the end goal? Has Ukraine made any progress? Is there accountability anywhere for where all that money is going?

The progress is that Russia failed to carry out the full takeover of Ukraine and is now entrenched in a situation even worse than what the U.S. faced in Vietnam. Ukrainians get to defend their land so that they don't become subjects of Russian tyranny. And the support has essentially prevented the invasion of Poland, Estonia, and Moldova, which are other countries with territory that Putin claims is actually part of Russia. On top of that, the defense of Ukraine has been a deterrent to China who would like to invade Taiwan. Lastly, it has further isolated Iran from the entire world because they have been supplying weapons to Russia. 

I think we are mostly sending weapons, not money, and my guess it they are being fired at the invading Russian army. 

Edited October 1 by billyhoyle

[Saylors_Tiny_Willie]

It will end when russia leaves Ukraine.

[wrestlingguy]

13 hours ago, billyhoyle said:

The progress is that Russia failed to carry out the full takeover of Ukraine and is now entrenched in a situation even worse than what the U.S. faced in Vietnam. Ukrainians get to defend their land so that they don't become subjects of Russian tyranny. And the support has essentially prevented the invasion of Poland, Estonia, and Moldova, which are other countries with territory that Putin claims is actually part of Russia. On top of that, the defense of Ukraine has been a deterrent to China who would like to invade Taiwan. Lastly, it has further isolated Iran from the entire world because they have been supplying weapons to Russia. 

I think we are mostly sending weapons, not money, and my guess it they are being fired at the invading Russian army. 

Good info. So the only winners in this situation are the weapons manufacturers because that's a lot of money for mostly weapons.

[red viking]

Our mistakes in Middle East/Israel policy are way more likely to get us into WW3 than Ukraine/Russia.