headshuck Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 After the joke, reassure me we’re not inching closer to war with Russia and its allies? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 By allies you mean China and Iran, correct? Biden says “don’t” could there be a better deterrent? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 According to Trump today, Ukraine isn't even a country anymore, doesn't exist, and its all Ukraine's fault....so good news, shouldn't have to go to WW3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headshuck Posted September 25 Author Share Posted September 25 Today Democrats voted with Republicans to rebuke Biden officials over the botched Afghanistan exit. These same officials might botch the situation with Ukraine and Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 we wont be equipped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 If true, this is not good. Such welders should be fired and any QA folks that didn't call it out should also be fired if true. This is inexcusable if true. Yet it will be excused for some stupid progressive reason if true. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 btw, i watched Oppenheimer the other night. Why are we flirting with WWIII? b/c we didn't listen to him. and I still can't believe ...(thought I dont know all the political leanings of the stars) the people who made the movie about a kangaroo court are surely disgusted with the way Opp was treated... but I bet they cheer the current kangarooness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker_Du Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 Ukraine is corrupt as the day is long. this war is a massive money laundering scheme. 1 TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveira Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 1 hour ago, Husker_Du said: Ukraine is corrupt as the day is long. this war is a massive money laundering scheme. And we just had the actor in charge in the good ol us of a campaigning for the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 I wonder if Ukraine feels their plan to convince Russia to invade them and destroy their country so they could launder money is working? Ballsy strategy Cotton, let’s see if it pays off for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saylors_Tiny_Willie Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 On 9/25/2024 at 12:14 PM, headshuck said: After the joke, reassure me we’re not inching closer to war with Russia and its allies? Americans, by and large, aren't simpering cowards. YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 you must be signing up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 based on the last post, im thinking TPT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveira Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 Why? This guy is still running the country that’s why …… introduces Zelenskyy as Putin. He doesn’t know where he is….. no worries nothings wrong nothing to see here. Keep on keeping on. https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTFSgH3Ga/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveira Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 A ton of cool recent SNL bits. Ha. If we win…..:: together ……. We can end the Dramala https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTFSgEaXV/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyhoyle Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 (edited) How is what the U.S. is doing in Ukraine any different than what the USSR did in Vietnam to fund and arm North Vietnam? How is it any closer to WW3 than when the U.S. provided arms to Afghanistan when the USSR invaded Afghanistan? We were much closer to war with the Soviet Union then than we are with Russia now. There is a long history of proxy warfare not leading to direct war between countries, and the war in Ukraine is just another example of proxy warfare. Russia is trying to fulfill its own imperialistic goals of conquest, and the Western countries are arming Ukraine to prevent that conquest because they recognize that Poland, Moldova, and Estonia would be the next countries to be invaded. Some in this country unfortunately believe that Russia, Iran, and China are just in this conflict, and the U.S. is a force for bad in the world and should withdraw its support. It's analogous to how many in the U.S. took the side of the USSR throughout the cold war. Edited September 30 by billyhoyle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 are you talking about tim walz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestlingguy Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 (edited) 10 hours ago, billyhoyle said: How is what the U.S. is doing in Ukraine any different than what the USSR did in Vietnam to fund and arm North Vietnam? How is it any closer to WW3 than when the U.S. provided arms to Afghanistan when the USSR invaded Afghanistan? We were much closer to war with the Soviet Union then than we are with Russia now. There is a long history of proxy warfare not leading to direct war between countries, and the war in Ukraine is just another example of proxy warfare. Russia is trying to fulfill its own imperialistic goals of conquest, and the Western countries are arming Ukraine to prevent that conquest because they recognize that Poland, Moldova, and Estonia would be the next countries to be invaded. Some in this country unfortunately believe that Russia, Iran, and China are just in this conflict, and the U.S. is a force for bad in the world and should withdraw its support. It's analogous to how many in the U.S. took the side of the USSR throughout the cold war. We have sent more than $175 Billion at this point. What is the end goal? Has Ukraine made any progress? Is there accountability anywhere for where all that money is going? Edited September 30 by wrestlingguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 we have only sent $52 billion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 since 2022 52b https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF12040#:~:text=Since then%2C the United States,) (see Table 1). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestlingguy Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 2 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said: we have only sent $52 billion? Nope. $175B. My number was way off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyhoyle Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 (edited) 11 hours ago, wrestlingguy said: We have sent more than $175 Billion at this point. What is the end goal? Has Ukraine made any progress? Is there accountability anywhere for where all that money is going? The progress is that Russia failed to carry out the full takeover of Ukraine and is now entrenched in a situation even worse than what the U.S. faced in Vietnam. Ukrainians get to defend their land so that they don't become subjects of Russian tyranny. And the support has essentially prevented the invasion of Poland, Estonia, and Moldova, which are other countries with territory that Putin claims is actually part of Russia. On top of that, the defense of Ukraine has been a deterrent to China who would like to invade Taiwan. Lastly, it has further isolated Iran from the entire world because they have been supplying weapons to Russia. I think we are mostly sending weapons, not money, and my guess it they are being fired at the invading Russian army. Edited October 1 by billyhoyle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saylors_Tiny_Willie Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 It will end when russia leaves Ukraine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestlingguy Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 13 hours ago, billyhoyle said: The progress is that Russia failed to carry out the full takeover of Ukraine and is now entrenched in a situation even worse than what the U.S. faced in Vietnam. Ukrainians get to defend their land so that they don't become subjects of Russian tyranny. And the support has essentially prevented the invasion of Poland, Estonia, and Moldova, which are other countries with territory that Putin claims is actually part of Russia. On top of that, the defense of Ukraine has been a deterrent to China who would like to invade Taiwan. Lastly, it has further isolated Iran from the entire world because they have been supplying weapons to Russia. I think we are mostly sending weapons, not money, and my guess it they are being fired at the invading Russian army. Good info. So the only winners in this situation are the weapons manufacturers because that's a lot of money for mostly weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red viking Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 Our mistakes in Middle East/Israel policy are way more likely to get us into WW3 than Ukraine/Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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