Wrestleknownothing Posted Monday at 01:56 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:56 PM This season there are no returning wrestlers who have a chance to become a four-timer.* The last time a season started without a returning wrestler who had a chance to become a four-timer was 2010. That was the season Kyle Dake started his epic run through four weights in four years. Every year since there was at least one guy on a streak. And how about 2022? We started that season with 7 returning wrestlers who had a shot at becoming four-timers. And three of them did. * I am not including Ferrari until I am certain about the ORS he claims. Freshmen and redshirt freshmen are on a three year run without a title. Do any of the crop of freshmen or redshirt freshmen have a realistic shot at winning this season? 2 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truzzcat Posted Monday at 02:27 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:27 PM I think Lilledahl is pretty far and away the front runner. Kannon webster is coming off a RS at 149 I don't see him winning it this year, but he is probably the most notable RS freshman I can think of. If Zack Ryder somehow ends up as the guy at 174 for PSU I think he deserves a mention. I do not see him beating Keegan, but crazier things have probably happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted Monday at 02:28 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:28 PM How did tshirts and cox have a chance at 4? they didn't win as freshmen right? "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted Monday at 02:34 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 02:34 PM (edited) 6 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: How did tshirts and cox have a chance at 4? they didn't win as freshmen right? Tsirtsis was a redshirt freshman and Cox was a true freshman in 2014 when they won titles. Tsirtsis wound up going 1, 3, R16, RS, 7 Cox was 1, 5, 1, 1 Edited Monday at 02:36 PM by Wrestleknownothing 2 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted Monday at 02:38 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 02:38 PM The only one who did not win as a freshman was Brooks. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyYe2024 Posted Monday at 05:18 PM Share Posted Monday at 05:18 PM aj will win at most one more title, at hwt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragit Posted Monday at 05:25 PM Share Posted Monday at 05:25 PM 6 minutes ago, CowboyYe2024 said: aj will win at most one more title, at hwt Emphasis on "at most" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted Monday at 06:58 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:58 PM 4 hours ago, Truzzcat said: I think Lilledahl is pretty far and away the front runner. Kannon webster is coming off a RS at 149 I don't see him winning it this year, but he is probably the most notable RS freshman I can think of. If Zack Ryder somehow ends up as the guy at 174 for PSU I think he deserves a mention. I do not see him beating Keegan, but crazier things have probably happened. I don't know, man. Watching Facundo roll around with Ryder in various videos, then watching Facundo - Haines at OTT... Ryder will be massive at 174lbs and Haines will be about average sized - at best. Haines - O'Toole did not have anyone with a clear size advantage and, if anything, Haines was considerably more lean. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crotalus Posted Monday at 07:46 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:46 PM Technically, O'Toole had a chance at four at the beginning of the 22/23 and 23/24 seasons, even though he did not win as a true freshman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted Monday at 07:54 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:54 PM 5 hours ago, Truzzcat said: I think Lilledahl is pretty far and away the front runner. Kannon webster is coming off a RS at 149 I don't see him winning it this year, but he is probably the most notable RS freshman I can think of. If Zack Ryder somehow ends up as the guy at 174 for PSU I think he deserves a mention. I do not see him beating Keegan, but crazier things have probably happened. Hard to imagine anyone winning 4 titles at 125. @Wrestleknownothing that would be a fun thread. Stats on which weight class has the most parity in champions since 1998. I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truzzcat Posted Monday at 08:04 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:04 PM 9 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: Hard to imagine anyone winning 4 titles at 125. @Wrestleknownothing that would be a fun thread. Stats on which weight class has the most parity in champions since 1998. I think he will grow into 133 at some point but fair point since 2010 I think Mcdonough,Delgado,Spencer are the only guys to win 2 or more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted Monday at 08:08 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 08:08 PM (edited) 24 minutes ago, Crotalus said: Technically, O'Toole had a chance at four at the beginning of the 22/23 and 23/24 seasons, even though he did not win as a true freshman. good point. missed that one. Edited Monday at 08:13 PM by Wrestleknownothing Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted Monday at 08:24 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:24 PM 6 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said: * I am not including Ferrari until I am certain about the ORS he claims. 3 hours ago, CowboyYe2024 said: aj will win at most one more title, at hwt How are we defining 4-timer? If kicked out of 4 universities counts then I think the focus still has a shot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted Monday at 08:26 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 08:26 PM 31 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: Hard to imagine anyone winning 4 titles at 125. @Wrestleknownothing that would be a fun thread. Stats on which weight class has the most parity in champions since 1998. Ask and ye shall receive 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchapman Posted Monday at 08:30 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:30 PM 18 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: good point. missed that one. It's interesting that six of these wrestlers never won another title (Ferrari still to be determined). Craig Henning got screwed in the 2007 NCAA Finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted Monday at 08:36 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 08:36 PM 4 minutes ago, jchapman said: It's interesting that six of these wrestlers never won another title (Ferrari still to be determined). Yes, but you also have to put an asterisk next to Hall on that front. 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCinnabon Posted Tuesday at 12:55 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 12:55 PM 16 hours ago, Truzzcat said: I think he will grow into 133 at some point but fair point since 2010 I think Mcdonough,Delgado,Spencer are the only guys to win 2 or more. I'd be interested to see how many 125lbers go all 4 years at 125lbs. It seems like the most likely weight to have guys grow out of it and because of that the hardest weight to recruit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broomstick Posted Tuesday at 01:26 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:26 PM (edited) nevermind Edited Tuesday at 01:27 PM by Broomstick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchapman Posted Tuesday at 02:45 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:45 PM 18 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Yes, but you also have to put an asterisk next to Hall on that front. Agreed. Had he not redshirted in middle school, he would have had four opportunities at the NCAA tournament. Craig Henning got screwed in the 2007 NCAA Finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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