headshuck Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 If Harris can deliver on these things she gets my vote. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 3 hours ago, headshuck said: If Harris can deliver on these things she gets my vote. This is really good. Maybe America will wake up and realize the country is more important your personal feelings. Voting your feelings gets you a Venezuela or North Korea. Maybe a couple more wars. Wide open borders. Every city will be a Springfield OHIO. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jross Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 With identical policies, I would take the business owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 In many cases yes. But a business owner with multiple cases of bankruptcy, multiple cases of not paying bills, and multiple cases of criminal fraud……not so much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 So, against Trump - screw America - the dead opposite of the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 1 hour ago, WrestlingRasta said: In many cases yes. But a business owner with multiple cases of bankruptcy, Curious whats the bankruptcy rate? BPE 10/14/24 IWB's SC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 2 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said: In many cases yes. But a business owner with multiple cases of bankruptcy, multiple cases of not paying bills, and multiple cases of criminal fraud……not so much. sounds like a perfect fit for the govt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbrog Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 So should the government be run like a business or not? I get confused...people who often bring up some of the companies Trump owns that have gone bankrupt as a way to say he wasn't or won't be a good President also seem to think government shouldn't be run like a business? I personally think the government finances should be run like a business. This comment isn't meant as me throwing all this support towards Trump, but rather just a general statement...have always thought it should. Just like schools should be run like a business in terms of expenses, efficiencies and the budget. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 This is how any financial institution should be run. Since the Fed doesn't make money, it has a different metric. Will this expenditure realize the gain wanted? If not, the money should not be spent. If so, is the gain worth the money spent? There are countless government programs that do not meet the first test and certainly don't meet the second. mspart 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saylors_Tiny_Willie Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 1 minute ago, mspart said: This is how any financial institution should be run. Since the Fed doesn't make money, it has a different metric. Will this expenditure realize the gain wanted? If not, the money should not be spent. If so, is the gain worth the money spent? There are countless government programs that do not meet the first test and certainly don't meet the second. mspart Was PEPFAR worth the money? Was the Guinea Worm Eradication Program worth the money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingRasta Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 It’s not so much some companies he has owned that have gone bankrupt that turns me off, it’s more…..multiple cases of companies he has bankrupted, combined with multiple cases of unpaid debt he refuses to pay, combined with multiple cases of criminal fraud he has committed…combined with so many other things. Do I think the government should be run like a business? No. It’s not a business, it’s a society. Do I think some economic/financial aspects of the government should include some business like characteristics…yes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 28 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said: ... it’s more…..multiple cases of companies he has bankrupted ... How many? BPE 10/14/24 IWB's SC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saylors_Tiny_Willie Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 4 minutes ago, ionel said: How many? https://finance.yahoo.com/news/were-watching-trumps-7th-bankruptcy-unfold-171903858.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 7 minutes ago, Saylors_Tiny_Willie said: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/were-watching-trumps-7th-bankruptcy-unfold-171903858.html So 7 out of some 250+ companies, entities, LLCs etc.? 2 BPE 10/14/24 IWB's SC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saylors_Tiny_Willie Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 3 minutes ago, ionel said: So 7 out of some 250+ companies, entities, LLCs etc.? You didn't ask for the ratio. I think it would be pretty hard to bankrupt the web of paper holding companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 Just now, Saylors_Tiny_Willie said: You didn't ask for the ratio. I think it would be pretty hard to bankrupt the web of paper holding companies. Yes I did. That question was not answered. BPE 10/14/24 IWB's SC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saylors_Tiny_Willie Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 1 minute ago, ionel said: Yes I did. That question was not answered. Yet you found the answer somehow. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 Just now, Saylors_Tiny_Willie said: Yet you found the answer somehow. Well done. I needed the numerator. BPE 10/14/24 IWB's SC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headshuck Posted September 18 Author Share Posted September 18 Top business failure statistics18.4% fail within the first year49.7% fail within the first 5 years65.6% fail within the first 10 yearsOnly 25% make it beyond 15 yearsSuccessful entrepreneurs fail a lot along their way. Some people/media choose to search for the failures among the successes. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saylors_Tiny_Willie Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 Just now, headshuck said: Top business failure statistics 18.4% fail within the first year 49.7% fail within the first 5 years 65.6% fail within the first 10 years Only 25% make it beyond 15 years Successful entrepreneurs fail a lot along their way. Some people/media choose to search for the failures among the successes. You're comparing Trump's businesses to the average business demographic... Sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headshuck Posted September 18 Author Share Posted September 18 You're comparing Trump's businesses to the average business demographic... Sure.No I’m suggesting some of the most successful businessmen in the history of the planet had a large percentage of failures but the world doesn’t focus on them. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headshuck Posted September 18 Author Share Posted September 18 With identical policies, I would take the business owner.Who is also a deal maker. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 Just now, headshuck said: Who is also a deal maker. Someone should tell KDH that he will nuke her lawn. 1 1 BPE 10/14/24 IWB's SC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saylors_Tiny_Willie Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 1 hour ago, headshuck said: No I’m suggesting some of the most successful businessmen in the history of the planet had a large percentage of failures but the world doesn’t focus on them. Three of his bankruptcies were casinos.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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