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On FRL they discussed some tweet or social media post by Gilman questioning his retirement and whether it means he willl wrestle 61kg at the trials.  JD mentioned the possibility of "someone else" at OSU doing this too seeming to acknowledge the Basch rumour, but no one on the show commented on it and the stuck to discussing Gilman.  Wouldn't it be askward if Fix and Gilman wrestled at the trials?

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1 hour ago, fishbane said:

On FRL they discussed some tweet or social media post by Gilman questioning his retirement and whether it means he willl wrestle 61kg at the trials.  JD mentioned the possibility of "someone else" at OSU doing this too seeming to acknowledge the Basch rumour, but no one on the show commented on it and the stuck to discussing Gilman.  Wouldn't it be askward if Fix and Gilman wrestled at the trials?

No. Look at the Olympic Trials. Happened a few times among NLWC wrestlers. Retherford/Lee, Brooks/Taylor, Dake/Nolf, Brooks/Mirasola, Facundo/Haines. Sign of a strong RTC.

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12 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

No. Look at the Olympic Trials. Happened a few times among NLWC wrestlers. Retherford/Lee, Brooks/Taylor, Dake/Nolf, Brooks/Mirasola, Facundo/Haines. Sign of a strong RTC.

I'm sure of that, but this is a little different because Gilman is a coach.  I know Cael unretired at PSU, but it's not like he wrestled Quentin Wright at the Trials whilst trying to coach Wright onto the team.   Or even if they had wreslted Quentin Wright would have been a pretty long shot to make the spot.   Fix is among the favorites and a former world medalist at 61kg. 

Similarly,  Varner may have been a NLWC coach when he unretired and tried to make the team ahead of the 2016 Olympics, but I don't think there were any strong contenders for that spot at NLWC at the time.  Snyder was still in college at Ohio State at the time.

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4 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

No. Look at the Olympic Trials. Happened a few times among NLWC wrestlers. Retherford/Lee, Brooks/Taylor, Dake/Nolf, Brooks/Mirasola, Facundo/Haines. Sign of a strong RTC.

Generally, but this would be a coach vs. an athlete he is presumably paid to coach.  Gilman has talked about looking forward to coaching Fix.  Wrestling him to make a team is a major conflict of interest.

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3 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Generally, but this would be a coach vs. an athlete he is presumably paid to coach.  Gilman has talked about looking forward to coaching Fix.  Wrestling him to make a team is a major conflict of interest.

Sure but sometimes ya gota accept the challenge and give it your best shot. 

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22 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Generally, but this would be a coach vs. an athlete he is presumably paid to coach.  Gilman has talked about looking forward to coaching Fix.  Wrestling him to make a team is a major conflict of interest.

Who better to coach Fix to beat Gilman than Gilman himself? Gilman knows Gilman better than anyone. If anything, Fix having Gilman as his coach is unfair for Gilman. 

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7 minutes ago, billyhoyle said:

Who better to coach Fix to beat Gilman than Gilman himself? Gilman knows Gilman better than anyone. If anything, Fix having Gilman as his coach is unfair for Gilman. 

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1 hour ago, ionel said:

Sure but sometimes ya gota accept the challenge and give it your best shot. 

Which challenge?  Coaching Fix to a world team berth or trying to make that world team himself?

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26 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

True.  But I kinda feel Gilman would hold back on the coaching aspect of the relationship.

 I mean this probably has happened before - coach wrestling athlete in competition.  Back before the proliferation of RTCs and resident athletes many post grads attempting to make world/Olympic teams were assistant coaches.  Alan Fried wrestled John Smith at the senior level when he was in high school.  He was definitely at OSU when Smith was still competing and at first an assistant and then later head coach.  Fried wasn't one of the favorites for the spot and I think Smith being there was a selling point at the time. Gilman and Fix wrestled a best of three for a world team spot in 2018.

Here is the FRL section discussion Gilman - https://www.youtube.com/live/35Zuq6ej_g4?si=LLJwrOCzUzT_fwYJ&t=2155

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Some may remember when Midlands was the premier open tournament. Was not surprising to find yourself lined up for a match against your Coaches.

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