No ID required. License to steal.

[Threadkilla]

16 States don't require an ID to vote. 212 electoral votes.

11 states require a non photo ID.  69 electoral votes. 

These states are prime for voter fraud. These states have a combined  281 electoral votes  (270 required for election). 

 

The remaining 23 require a photo ID. 

83% of blacks have access to smartphones.  85% of whites and Hispanics have access to smartphones.  There's literally no difference for access to phones.  Anybody that has access to a smartphone has the ability to get a photo ID.  

It would appear to be racist to say that blacks and Hispanics don't have the capacity to get an ID. Which has been the lefts argument.   

The left fights tooth and nail to not allow voter ID nationally, I wonder why that is.

[Ohio Elite]

5 minutes ago, Threadkilla said:

I wonder why that is.

No need to wonder..

[Threadkilla]

1 minute ago, Ohio Elite said:

No need to wonder..

I was being facetious.

[Scouts Honor]

the soft racism of low expectations

[Scouts Honor]

i bet this guy has a photo ID

https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/9499560

[Paul158]

18 hours ago, Ohio Elite said:

No need to wonder..

In North Carolina we voted for voter ID's and we got it. Then one activist judge somehow got it overturned. Unbelievable. I'm just not buying the integrity of our election process.

[fishbane]

3 minutes ago, Paul158 said:

In North Carolina we voted for voter ID's and we got it. Then one activist judge somehow got it overturned. Unbelievable. I'm just not buying the integrity of our election process.

Probably because it was an unfair election.  How could the Judge be sure everyone that voted in the election was legally allowed to vote since they have to produce photo ID?

[braves121]

6 minutes ago, Paul158 said:

In North Carolina we voted for voter ID's and we got it. Then one activist judge somehow got it overturned. Unbelievable. I'm just not buying the integrity of our election process.

Do you believe that both sides are not having integrity of the election process or is it specially republicans or democrats not participating in fair integrity of our elections?

[Paul158]

Just now, braves121 said:

Do you believe that both sides are not having integrity of the election process or is it specially republicans or democrats not participating in fair integrity of our elections?

I just  want to do everything possible for fair and honest elections. Voter I.D. would be one part of that. Its unfortunate but some people just can't play fair.

[Paul158]

11 minutes ago, fishbane said:

Probably because it was an unfair election.  How could the Judge be sure everyone that voted in the election was legally allowed to vote since they have to produce photo ID?

I believe it was because it would adversely affect the black vote. That is what they said. They keep saying that blacks cannot figure out how to get a voter ID. Isn't that racist itself. I just don't agree with their findings.

[braves121]

10 minutes ago, Paul158 said:

I believe it was because it would adversely affect the black vote. That is what they said. They keep saying that blacks cannot figure out how to get a voter ID. Isn't that racist itself. I just don't agree with their findings.

Quick google search shows that North Carolina only proves a free ID if you are under 17, legally blind, homeless, or had a license that was cancelled due to disability or disease. If you have to pay for an ID to exercise your right to vote it’s not a right it’s a tax. So it doesn’t look like people are saying black people can’t figure out how to get an id like you state, but more so that having to pay to vote is not fair and accessible to the whole population of the state

Edited April 29 by braves121

[Paul158]

4 minutes ago, braves121 said:

Quick google search shows that North Carolina only proves a free ID if you are under 17, legally blind, homeless, or had a license that was cancelled due to disability or disease. If you have to pay for an ID to exercise your right to vote it’s not a right it’s a tax. So it doesn’t look like people are saying black people can’t figure out how to get an id like you state, but more so that having to pay to vote is not fair and accessible to the whole population of the state

That has to be the lamest excuse for not having voter I.D. . I wonder why 30 states already have some sort of voter ID. I read it had something to do with the Republican controlled legislature undeniably implemented this legislation to maintain its power by targeting voters of color. It also mentioned it was motivated in part by an unconstitutional intent to target African American voters.

[fishbane]

2 minutes ago, Paul158 said:

That has to be the lamest excuse for not having voter I.D. . I wonder why 30 states already have some sort of voter ID. I read it had something to do with the Republican controlled legislature undeniably implemented this legislation to maintain its power by targeting voters of color. It also mentioned it was motivated in part by an unconstitutional intent to target African American voters.

The North Carolina state photo ID is a very reasonable $14.  When I first voted in an election at 18 years old, I didn't have a state issued photo ID.  I didn't have a passport, didn't have a driver's license, no state non-driver ID either.  If the only thing I needed a state ID for at the time was to vote in an election at $14 I might do it, but if it was $40 or $50 I might have passed.  

[Husker_Du]

26 minutes ago, braves121 said:

Quick google search shows that North Carolina only proves a free ID if you are under 17, legally blind, homeless, or had a license that was cancelled due to disability or disease. If you have to pay for an ID to exercise your right to vote it’s not a right it’s a tax. So it doesn’t look like people are saying black people can’t figure out how to get an id like you state, but more so that having to pay to vote is not fair and accessible to the whole population of the state

“poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids," - Joe Biden

[braves121]

7 minutes ago, Paul158 said:

That has to be the lamest excuse for not having voter I.D. . I wonder why 30 states already have some sort of voter ID. I read it had something to do with the Republican controlled legislature undeniably implemented this legislation to maintain its power by targeting voters of color. It also mentioned it was motivated in part by an unconstitutional intent to target African American voters.

While I do not believe that voter id laws are targeted towards a race, i believe they are made to reduce the amount of people voting. Having to pay for the right to vote is not constitutional. However you do not so I will ask what do you think is the most reasonable price you have to pay to be able to vote? When you are down to your last $10 or however much money you have left and your choices are either feeding your children or voting what do you think 99% of people will do?

[braves121]

6 minutes ago, fishbane said:

The North Carolina state photo ID is a very reasonable $14.  When I first voted in an election at 18 years old, I didn't have a state issued photo ID.  I didn't have a passport, didn't have a driver's license, no state non-driver ID either.  If the only thing I needed a state ID for at the time was to vote in an election at $14 I might do it, but if it was $40 or $50 I might have passed.  

So your limit to being a disenfranchised voter was $40-$50. To others it will be $14. $0 would be the most reasonable since it’s a constitutional right to vote 

Edited April 29 by braves121

[Paul158]

2 minutes ago, fishbane said:

The North Carolina state photo ID is a very reasonable $14.  When I first voted in an election at 18 years old, I didn't have a state issued photo ID.  I didn't have a passport, didn't have a driver's license, no state non-driver ID either.  If the only thing I needed a state ID for at the time was to vote in an election at $14 I might do it, but if it was $40 or $50 I might have passed.  

You didn't have a drivers license? Just curious why not? When I grew up in Ohio the minute you turned 16 (guys) got their driver license.

[braves121]

6 minutes ago, Husker_Du said:

“poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids," - Joe Biden

Yep this makes sense i didn’t mention Biden at all lol

Edited April 29 by braves121

[Paul158]

2 minutes ago, braves121 said:

While I do not believe that voter id laws are targeted towards a race, i believe they are made to reduce the amount of people voting. Having to pay for the right to vote is not constitutional. However you do not so I will ask what do you think is the most reasonable price you have to pay to be able to vote? When you are down to your last $10 or however much money you have left and your choices are either feeding your children or voting what do you think 99% of people will do?

I think if the federal government can hand out 150 billion dollars to transfer debt from college graduates (loans) to me and you the taxpayer they should be able to a lot a few million dollars for voter I.D.s or the state could.

[fishbane]

2 minutes ago, braves121 said:

So your limit to being a disenfranchised voter was $40-$50. To others it will be $14. $0 would be the most reasonable since it’s a constitutional right to vote 

Yeah I agree.  

8 minutes ago, Paul158 said:

You didn't have a drivers license? Just curious why not? When I grew up in Ohio the minute you turned 16 (guys) got their driver license.

Yeah where I lived, which was suburban most people got them, before 18.  I think you could only get your permit the minute you turned 16.  It wasn't that important to me and having a cars is expensive.  I went car free a couple years post college too.  At one point in time I was cycle commuting 16mi one way to work 5 days/week.  

I imagine not getting a license at all or until after you are legal voting age is more common in urban areas or in households that cannot afford multiple cars.

[Paul158]

1 minute ago, fishbane said:

Yeah I agree.  

Yeah where I lived, which was suburban most people got them, before 18.  I think you could only get your permit the minute you turned 16.  It wasn't that important to me and having a cars is expensive.  I went car free a couple years post college too.  At one point in time I was cycle commuting 16mi one way to work 5 days/week.  

I imagine not getting a license at all or until after you are legal voting age is more common in urban areas or in households that cannot afford multiple cars.

My first car was a 400 dollar American Motors 1969 Rebel. It was nice car. I then worked a saved up 700 dollars for a 1957 Chevy Belair. My brother bought a beautiful 1965 GTO for 600 dollars. The good old days.

[Offthemat]

26 minutes ago, braves121 said:

$0 would be the most reasonable since it’s a constitutional right to vote 

Wrong.  There is no constitutional right to vote for anyone.  

[uncle bernard]

9 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

Wrong.  There is no constitutional right to vote for anyone.  

the freedom lover has logged on i see

[Husker_Du]

36 minutes ago, braves121 said:

Yep this makes sense i didn’t mention Biden at all lol

no. you just said that black people can't afford $14

[uncle bernard]

The easiest way to solve this is that we do it by SSN. Every US citizen has a unique SSN. Every SSN over 18 years old should be automatically registered to vote. Republicans don't want to do this because it makes voting easier.