Are all the Pro-Palestine, anti Israel protests helping or hurting the Democrats?

[uncle bernard]

21 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

Such weak sauce.  People have answered this question many times...your reading comprehension is shining through again.

Okay, then answer it again. Yes or no is all I need.

[Scouts Honor]

 

[uncle bernard]

8 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

 

people standing in a lobby. the horror.

[BuckyBadger]

1 hour ago, uncle bernard said:

people standing in a lobby. the horror.

Not like embassies/consulates ever get attacked. No security concerns there….sure.

[uncle bernard]

54 minutes ago, BuckyBadger said:

Not like embassies/consulates ever get attacked. No security concerns there….sure.

true. if they were attacking the embassy, you'd have a point. but they aren't, so you don't!

[BuckyBadger]

54 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

true. if they were attacking the embassy, you'd have a point. but they aren't, so you don't!

Yes, we all know that you never take precautionary measures when it comes to security. Just wait until an attack happens to do something. Thanks for the reminder.

[JimmyBT]

5 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

nobody is answering the question!

does israel have the right to kill palestinians civilians if they support hamas? yes or no. please answer!

It’s war. War is hell.  Deal with the blow back or speak up against Hamas.  

[JimmyBT]

5 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

nobody is answering the question!

does israel have the right to kill palestinians civilians if they support hamas? yes or no. please answer!

Says the guy that’s avoided many of mine (and others) questions, some more than once.   You don’t get to play that card while you’re doing the same thing.  War is he’ll deal with it. 

[Lipdrag]

3 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

people standing in a lobby. the horror.

How about a group of uninvited people stand in the entryway to your house?  They are there only to tell you how much they hate you.  They don't do it politely.  After you acknowlege they hate you they refuse to leave.  They impede your ability to go to your yard.  You have friends coming over to eat dinner but they can't get in your house.

You call the police to ask them to remove the uninvited haters from your house.  Yes, this is horrible. Trespassing is a crime.  A felony if someone the leftists don't like thinks about it in New York.

[JimmyBT]

4 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

Okay, then answer it again. Yes or no is all I need.

How about when you start denouncing Palestinians for not denouncing Hamas.  

[JimmyBT]

1 minute ago, Lipdrag said:

How about a group of uninvited people stand in the entryway to your house?  They are there only to tell you how much they hate you.  They don't do it politely.  After you acknowlege they hate you they refuse to leave.  They impede your ability to go to your yard.  You have friends coming over to eat dinner but they can't get in your house.

You call the police to ask them to remove the uninvited haters from your house.  Yes, this is horrible. Trespassing is a crime.  A felony if someone the leftists don't like thinks about it in New York.

This  

[uncle bernard]

45 minutes ago, BuckyBadger said:

Yes, we all know that you never take precautionary measures when it comes to security. Just wait until an attack happens to do something. Thanks for the reminder.

What you're complaining about is living in a free society. 

Are you going to pretend that security isn't on hand watching the situation? There are certainly precautions being taken. They just don't extend to trampling freedom.

[uncle bernard]

17 minutes ago, Lipdrag said:

How about a group of uninvited people stand in the entryway to your house?  They are there only to tell you how much they hate you.  They don't do it politely.  After you acknowlege they hate you they refuse to leave.  They impede your ability to go to your yard.  You have friends coming over to eat dinner but they can't get in your house.

You call the police to ask them to remove the uninvited haters from your house.  Yes, this is horrible. Trespassing is a crime.  A felony if someone the leftists don't like thinks about it in New York.

You just described life as a Palestinian.

[uncle bernard]

17 minutes ago, JimmyBT said:

How about when you start denouncing Palestinians for not denouncing Hamas.  

Sure. They should do it. Now what? If they don't, you think we should kill them?

Answer the question.

[BuckyBadger]

1 minute ago, uncle bernard said:

What you're complaining about is living in a free society. 

Are you going to pretend that security isn't on hand watching the situation? There are certainly precautions being taken. They just don't extend to trampling freedom.

Not true, there is a reason that people are arrested and questioned all the time for taking photographs of the White House etc. When it comes to embassies etc, letting a large crowd gather that could potentially be hostile is incredibly foolish. An enormous amount of money/resources is required for security. You are either being dishonest or willfully ignorant.

[uncle bernard]

1 minute ago, BuckyBadger said:

Not true, there is a reason that people are arrested and questioned all the time for taking photographs of the White House etc. When it comes to embassies etc, letting a large crowd gather that could potentially be hostile is incredibly foolish. An enormous amount of money/resources is required for security. You are either being dishonest or willfully ignorant.

So what are you actually complaining about? They've been asked to leave. They said no. Now they'll face consequences. The SF police now have the option to handle the situation in the way they feel best promotes public safety.

You think we should gun them down just in case?

Being annoyed is the cost of freedom bucky. Go live in China if you want to live in an authoritarian country.

[mspart]

Just now, BuckyBadger said:

Not true, there is a reason that people are arrested and questioned all the time for taking photographs of the White House etc. When it comes to embassies etc, letting a large crowd gather that could potentially be hostile is incredibly foolish. An enormous amount of money/resources is required for security. You are either being dishonest or willfully ignorant.

Willfully ignorant.  

4 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

Sure. They should do it. Now what? If they don't, you think we should kill them?

Answer the question.

Civilians are killed in every war and UB.   Quit pretending they are not.   You make it sound like the IDF is targeting civilians.   They are not.   That is verified.  I gave you a list of numbers of civilians killed in war and you disregarded it.   That's on you.   It happens, it is war.   Lots of people die both soldier and civilian.   Its what happens.   They shouldn't be targeted but to win a war, people have to die.   That is the definition of war.   It ain't pretty. 

mspart

[JimmyBT]

8 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

Sure. They should do it. Now what? If they don't, you think we should kill them?

Answer the question.

If they support terrorists 

[JimmyBT]

9 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

Sure. They should do it. Now what? If they don't, you think we should kill them?

Answer the question.

Why don’t you start a movement/protest to help Palestinians speak up against Hamas?  Why only protest against Israel 
 

Answer the question 

[JimmyBT]

4 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

So what are you actually complaining about? They've been asked to leave. They said no. Now they'll face consequences. The SF police now have the option to handle the situation in the way they feel best promotes public safety.

You think we should gun them down just in case?

Being annoyed is the cost of freedom bucky. Go live in China if you want to live in an authoritarian country.

Or Gaza with Terrorists in charge 

[BuckyBadger]

1 minute ago, uncle bernard said:

So what are you actually complaining about? They've been asked to leave. They said no. Now they'll face consequences. The SF police now have the option to handle the situation in the way they feel best promotes public safety.

You think we should gun them down just in case?

Being annoyed is the cost of freedom bucky. Go live in China if you want to live in an authoritarian country.

I’m not complaining about the protestors. As you said they were forced to leave. I’m pointing out that you are pretending that this is a free speech issue. If they remained outside and a certain distance away you might have a point, but you know that’s not the case and continue to twist the situation.

[uncle bernard]

2 minutes ago, mspart said:

Willfully ignorant.  

Civilians are killed in every war and UB.   Quit pretending they are not.   You make it sound like the IDF is targeting civilians.   They are not.   That is verified.  I gave you a list of numbers of civilians killed in war and you disregarded it.   That's on you.   It happens, it is war.   Lots of people die both soldier and civilian.   Its what happens.   They shouldn't be targeted but to win a war, people have to die.   That is the definition of war.   It ain't pretty. 

mspart

Is that a yes or no? Because Jimmy is saying civilians lose their legal protections if they support Hamas. That is the question. Yes or no. 

That's also been the implicit argument of many on here. We shouldn't feel bad for civilians because they didn't stand up to Hamas. 

And you can keep saying they aren't targeting civilians all you want. It's not "verified" and there is tons of evidence to suggest otherwise, but leave that aside for the moment and just answer the question straight up: 

does israel have the right to kill palestinian civilians if they support hamas?

 

[uncle bernard]

6 minutes ago, JimmyBT said:

Why don’t you start a movement/protest to help Palestinians speak up against Hamas?  Why only protest against Israel 
 

Answer the question 

Because I'm an American and my government isn't supporting Hamas with billions of dollars. If my government was giving Hamas weapons to prolong the violence, I would protest them. That's how protests work Jimbo.

[JimmyBT]

1 minute ago, uncle bernard said:

Is that a yes or no? Because Jimmy is saying civilians lose their legal protections if they support Hamas. That is the question. Yes or no. 

That's also been the implicit argument of many on here. We shouldn't feel bad for civilians because they didn't stand up to Hamas. 

And you can keep saying they aren't targeting civilians all you want. It's not "verified" and there is tons of evidence to suggest otherwise, but leave that aside for the moment and just answer the question straight up: 

does israel have the right to kill palestinian civilians if they support hamas?

 

They don’t have legal protections. Hamas uses them as human shields. 

[uncle bernard]

5 minutes ago, BuckyBadger said:

I’m not complaining about the protestors. As you said they were forced to leave. I’m pointing out that you are pretending that this is a free speech issue. If they remained outside and a certain distance away you might have a point, but you know that’s not the case and continue to twist the situation.

No, I laughed at the idea that it was supposed to be scary and you came back with "well what if they try to kill everyone." 

Use common sense. Does free speech give them the right to trespass? No. Is this a serious crime we should all be afraid of? Also no.