Are all the Pro-Palestine, anti Israel protests helping or hurting the Democrats?

[uncle bernard]

13 minutes ago, JimmyBT said:

So you’re willing to protest the killing of innocent people on Oct 7?….  

of course. i've said it over and over again.

[uncle bernard]

9 minutes ago, JimmyBT said:

Shouldn’t the citizens of Gaza want to be on the right side of history and do anything and everything to rid themselves and the area of Hamas?   

how? they have no weapons, no food, and their homes are gone. how are they supposed to get rid of a highly trained, experienced military group with tunnels throughout the whole territory? the IDF hasn't been able to do it in 6 months with the world's greatest weaponry and you think Gazans could do it, but are choosing not to? 

Reminder: Hamas has never won a majority of votes in an election. 

[JimmyBT]

21 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

how? they have no weapons, no food, and their homes are gone. how are they supposed to get rid of a highly trained, experienced military group with tunnels throughout the whole territory? the IDF hasn't been able to do it in 6 months with the world's greatest weaponry and you think Gazans could do it, but are choosing not to? 

Reminder: Hamas has never won a majority of votes in an election. 

They obviously figured out how to get enough people to vote for them.  How many have spoken out against Oct 7? 

[JimmyBT]

25 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

of course. i've said it over and over again.

Yet you’ve actually protested against Israel but NOT against what Hamas did on Oct 7.   Start a movement for Gazans to speak up against Hamas.  

[uncle bernard]

16 minutes ago, JimmyBT said:

They obviously figured out how to get enough people to vote for them.  How many have spoken out against Oct 7? 

they got 43% of the vote 20 years ago and that's it.

[mspart]

That won them 74 out of 132 seats.   So they  figured out how to get enough people to vote for them, or it is dumb luck that they won a majority of seats with a 44.45% (you got it wrong) of the vote. 

That's 56.1% of the seats (a majority) with 44.45% of the vote.   You should go there and tell them they are illegitimate since you are so against Hamas.  See how that goes for you. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Palestinian_legislative_election

mspart

Edited June 3 by mspart

[Bigbrog]

2 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

So you disagree with @JimmyBT that Gazan civilians are fair game because they support Hamas (we don't even know that's true for the record)?

I'm glad that you see the light and agree with my original post (or so it seems). I've been incredible consistent that the murder of civilians is always wrong, the killing of armed combatants, especially terrorists is allowed.

There you go with your reading comprehension or lack thereof.  Jimmy did not ever say it is okay and "fair game" because they support Humas, what he said is that war sucks, it is ugly, Humas started this.  They are at fault.  Humas is using them as human shields thus civilians unfortunately die...period.  And you know why this war still goes on after 6 months, because Israel DOES worry about killing innocent people and are trying their hardest to have civilian deaths kept to a minimum.  If they truly didn't care, Humas would be gone 5 weeks ago.  Once again try and twist that all you want but that is what has and is happening.  Your antisemitic rhetoric can't change the truth.  You consistently post things that are in fact pro-Humas, you post asinine and cringe worthy comparisons showing your hate for Israel and the US.  We all have good reading comprehension...it is you that thinks that you can post crap and then try and spin it to mean something else.  You are on the one who is on the wrong side of history, just as all your fellow compadres camping out on college campuses promoting hate for the US and hate for Israel.  And the funny part is you prove it over and over with every single post.

[uncle bernard]

31 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

There you go with your reading comprehension or lack thereof.  Jimmy did not ever say it is okay and "fair game" because they support Humas, what he said is that war sucks, it is ugly, Humas started this.  They are at fault.  Humas is using them as human shields thus civilians unfortunately die...period.  And you know why this war still goes on after 6 months, because Israel DOES worry about killing innocent people and are trying their hardest to have civilian deaths kept to a minimum.  If they truly didn't care, Humas would be gone 5 weeks ago.  Once again try and twist that all you want but that is what has and is happening.  Your antisemitic rhetoric can't change the truth.  You consistently post things that are in fact pro-Humas, you post asinine and cringe worthy comparisons showing your hate for Israel and the US.  We all have good reading comprehension...it is you that thinks that you can post crap and then try and spin it to mean something else.  You are on the one who is on the wrong side of history, just as all your fellow compadres camping out on college campuses promoting hate for the US and hate for Israel.  And the funny part is you prove it over and over with every single post.

"According to me when you support a terrorist organization like most Palestinians do you have to take what you get. Pretty simple."

"Palestinians support Hamas. They are accountable."

Took 30 seconds to pull these two up from this thread. He very clearly thinks it's okay to kill civilians if they support Hamas. He's welcome to come on here and say otherwise.

[uncle bernard]

1 hour ago, mspart said:

That won them 74 out of 132 seats.   So they  figured out how to get enough people to vote for them, or it is dumb luck that they won a majority of seats with a 44.45% (you got it wrong) of the vote. 

That's 56.1% of the seats (a majority) with 44.45% of the vote.   You should go there and tell them they are illegitimate since you are so against Hamas.  See how that goes for you. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Palestinian_legislative_election

mspart

"See how that goes for you."

Yeah, it's almost like they're an armed terror group who kills dissenters!

Zero self awareness to post that and then pretend not to understand why Palestinians haven't overthrown them.

[Scouts Honor]

4 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

of course. i've said it over and over again.

you are safe... the only protest going on is the one in gaza right now.

unless you want to go...

[Scouts Honor]

4 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

how? they have no weapons, no food, and their homes are gone. how are they supposed to get rid of a highly trained, experienced military group with tunnels throughout the whole territory? the IDF hasn't been able to do it in 6 months with the world's greatest weaponry and you think Gazans could do it, but are choosing not to? 

Reminder: Hamas has never won a majority of votes in an election. 

why is that? (that they have no food,weapons etc)

btw.. .71% approved of the oCT 7 attack

Edited June 3 by Scouts Honor

[Scouts Honor]

 

[JimmyBT]

3 hours ago, JimmyBT said:

Yet you’ve actually protested against Israel but NOT against what Hamas did on Oct 7.   Start a movement for Gazans to speak up against Hamas.  

Uncle Bernard. You ignored this. Why? 

[JimmyBT]

2 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

"According to me when you support a terrorist organization like most Palestinians do you have to take what you get. Pretty simple."

"Palestinians support Hamas. They are accountable."

Took 30 seconds to pull these two up from this thread. He very clearly thinks it's okay to kill civilians if they support Hamas. He's welcome to come on here and say otherwise.

And I stand by what I said.  War is hell.  Support terrorists and you have to deal with the blow back. Now show where (other than your biased interpretation) that I said it’s ok.  

[mspart]

2 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

"See how that goes for you."

Yeah, it's almost like they're an armed terror group who kills dissenters!

Zero self awareness to post that and then pretend not to understand why Palestinians haven't overthrown them.

It's almost like you haven't studied history.   Lots of regimes have been overthrown when the peasants have had enough.    France, South America, most of Africa, most of the communist world.   And that is just recent history.  It not like it has never happened, but it is impossible for this group to do so.   Yeah right.  

mspart

[uncle bernard]

1 hour ago, mspart said:

It's almost like you haven't studied history.   Lots of regimes have been overthrown when the peasants have had enough.    France, South America, most of Africa, most of the communist world.   And that is just recent history.  It not like it has never happened, but it is impossible for this group to do so.   Yeah right.  

mspart

were those peasants crowded into a ting strip of land that’s been completely leveled by bombs that weren’t even dropped by the regime who rules them?

it’s hilarious for coddled americans to pontificate from the couch on this. 

i mean, what do you think would happen if palestinians were able to get weapons to fight hamas? you think israel wouldn’t kill them too? in israel’s mind, being in the presence of weapons is a death sentence. 

ps if you actually studied history, you’d know it wasn’t “peasants” that carried out those revolutions. 

[uncle bernard]

2 hours ago, mspart said:

It's almost like you haven't studied history.   Lots of regimes have been overthrown when the peasants have had enough.    France, South America, most of Africa, most of the communist world.   And that is just recent history.  It not like it has never happened, but it is impossible for this group to do so.   Yeah right.  

mspart

and you’re still dodging the question. should we kill people because of their political beliefs even if they don’t take violent action? 

jimmy says yes. what do you say?

[uncle bernard]

“why don’t they just overthrow hamas?”

 

[JimmyBT]

Just stay down and do nothing. That will get you on the right side of history.  Uncle Protester hates Jewish people. 

[JimmyBT]

3 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

“why don’t they just overthrow hamas?”

 

Just stay on the couch and do nothing.  Because they want Hamas to do what they did. 

[RockLobster]

8 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

"See how that goes for you."

Yeah, it's almost like they're an armed terror group who kills dissenters!

Zero self awareness to post that and then pretend not to understand why Palestinians haven't overthrown them.

Easy there, slugger.

You paint a picture of innocent Palestinians who aren't dissenters for fear of their lives. That's convenient.

YET:

• How many Palestinians have been posting online (anonymously) calling for Hamas demise?
  None.
• How many of the protesters at US Universities (who aren't subject to the Hamas terror group) have been calling for Hamas demise?
  None.
• How many news services (who aren't subject to the Hamas terror group) have been reporting Palestinians calling for Hamas demise.
  None.

Palestinians (and those that support them) have every opportunity to separate them from the terrorist Hamas that govern them without weapons and without any risk. Yet they don't. (You included.)

The facts tell the story. You're full of shit.

 

Disclaimer:
I don't know you and you may be smarter than I give you credit for. But, if so, you certainly haven't shown it here.

[uncle bernard]

nobody is answering the question!

does israel have the right to kill palestinians civilians if they support hamas? yes or no. please answer!

[uncle bernard]

 

[uncle bernard]

This is why people turn to Hamas

 

[Bigbrog]

2 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

nobody is answering the question!

does israel have the right to kill palestinians civilians if they support hamas? yes or no. please answer!

Such weak sauce.  People have answered this question many times...your reading comprehension is shining through again.