PSU at Iowa Predictions Thread

[Wrestleknownothing]

Starting in 2021 on TheMat, I started accumulating predictions for the Iowa v PSU dual. While this year looks a bit less interesting than the prior three years given the disparity between the teams and Iowa's latest result, I wanted to see if there is interest in tracking this again this year.

If so, post your predictions here and I will assemble them alongside predictions from Go Iowa Awesome and Happy Valley Insider to come up with a wisdom of the crowds consensus pick as I have done in the past. As always there will be valuable prizes after the results are known.

@Barracuda141 already got things started with his predictions in another thread on Thursday. Though since we all have more information since then, feel free to update your picks at any time up until mid-afternoon Friday.

I will go next:

125: Ayala Dec over Davis 3-0 Iowa
133: Nagao Dec over Schriever 3-3
141: Bartlett Dec over Woods 3-6 PSU
149: Kasak Dec over Rathjen 3-9 PSU
157: Haines Dec over Franek 3-12 PSU
165: Mesenbrink Dec over Caliendo 3-15 PSU
174: Starocci MD over Kennedy 3-19 PSU
184: Truax TF over Riggins 3-24 PSU
197: Brooks MD over Glazier 3-28 PSU
285: Kerkvliet Pinfall over Hill 3-34 PSU

I am very uncomfortable with that final score. I just do not see Iowa getting beaten that bad, but here I am. I expect Iowa to go with the 2023 Nelson Brands / any year Will Lewan strategy of committing to center control, hand fighting, blocking, relying on the CHA crowd to call for stalling on PSU before they get off the bus, and hoping to get to ride outs and win 2-1 with +1 second of RT. If they can then a number of matches could go either way. Certainly 133-165 qualify.

[JimmyBT]

125 - Iowa 3

133 - PSU 3

141 - Iowa 3

149 - Iowa 3

157 - PSU 3

165 - Iowa 3

174 - PSU 4

184 - PSU 4

197 - PSU 3

HWT - PSU 4

PSU 21

Iowa 12

[Le duke]

125 Iowa 3-0
133 PSU 3-3
141 Iowa 6-3
149 PSU 6-6
157 PSU 6-9
165 PSU 6-12
174 PSU 6-15
184 PSU 6-18
197 PSU 6-22
285 PSU 6-26


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[Grecojones]

I’m calling it early. Iowa gets blanked. 

[nhs67]

125
Davis, PSU over Ayala, Iowa via Decision
PSU 3-0

133
Nagao, PSU over Teske, Iowa via Decision
PSU 6-0

141
Woods, Iowa over Evans, PSU via Major
PSU 6-4

149
Voinovich, Iowa over Kasak, Penn State via Decision
Iowa 7-6

157
Franek, Iowa over Haines, Penn State via Decision
Iowa 10-6

165
Caliendo, Iowa over Mesenbrink, Penn State via Decision
Iowa 13-6

174
Sta(l)rocci, Penn State over Arnold, Iowa via Decision
Iowa 13-9

Both teams get a deduction here... IT IS LOOOOUD!!
Iowa 12-8

184
Truax, Penn State over Kennedy, Iowa via Decision
Iowa 12-11

197
Brooks, Penn State over Glazier, Iowa via Tech
Penn State 16-12

285
Kerkvliet, Penn State over Kueter, Iowa via Pinfellery
Penn State 22-12

I think there will be a little gamesmanship, some odd coaching decisions, and an all-around badass dual atmosphere... add in that I think Iowa will wrestle with a chip on their shoulders and this is going to be a fun dual.

I would actually expect otherwise and that Penn State absolutely blasts them to the tune of what @Wrestleknownothing predicts above... that said, I want to have a little fun inside Carver...

I also fully expect Arnold go go, FWIW.  That would put Kennedy at 184, unless Arnold goes 184.  I think Arnold wants a bite of Sta(l)rocci, though.

In the end Brooks destroys Glazier and Kerkvliet destroys Kueter.

[nhs67]

3 minutes ago, Grecojones said:

I’m calling it early. Iowa gets blanked. 

You're actually calling it late.  A lot of folks have been calling for it since Friday's beatdown at the hands of Michigan.

[Wrestleknownothing]

19 minutes ago, Grecojones said:

I’m calling it early. Iowa gets blanked. 

60-0?

30-0?

Weight by weight?

[Pish]

Welp..I'm going to do it..

Davis dec 3-0

Nagao dec 6-0

Bartlett dec 9-0

Kasak dec 12-0

Haines dec 15-0

Messenbrink MD 19-0

Star MD 23-0

Truax dec 26-0

Brooks MD 30-0

Kerk MD 34-0

 

I'm sure Iowa will get one or two, but I'm not predicting it.  IMO there are pickems at 125, 141, 149 and 157..but based on what Ive seen, I give PSU slight edges in each

[Grecojones]

38 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

You're actually calling it late.  A lot of folks have been calling for it since Friday's beatdown at the hands of Michigan.

I called it in the Michigan thread aswell. I may actually have been the first to call it. 

[Dogbone]

25 Iowa 3-0

33 Tied 3-3

141 Iowa 6-3

149 Tied 6-6

157 PSU 9-6

165 PSU 12-6

174 PSU 16-6

184- PSU 20-6

197 - PSU 24-6

285 PSU 28-6

[peanut]

I think we might see a few backups wrestle, particularly on PSU’s side. 

[Mr. PeanutButter]

If I were to lobotomize myself and go full homer, I'd pick a 5-5 split with decisions only and with 125, 141, 149, 157, and 165 going Iowa's way. Iowa gets the criteria win. 

More realistically, I think 3 wins would be good and 4 would be great. Iowa gives up bonus at heavyweight and most likely at 174 but I believe Glazier and Arnold (at 184) keep their losses to decisions. 

[PortaJohn]

1 hour ago, nhs67 said:

165
Caliendo, Iowa over Mesenbrink, Penn State via Decision
Iowa 13-6

You're crazy.  Better chance Messenbrink bonuses than losing to Caliendo.  He'll break him mid way through the 2nd period

[TheDFP]

125: Davis over Ayala  3-0  PSU
133: Nagao Dec over Schriever 3-3
141: Bartlett Dec over Woods 6-3 PSU
149: Kasak MDec over Rathjen 10-3 PSU
157: Haines Dec over Franek 13-3 PSU
165: Mesenbrink MDec over Caliendo 17-3 PSU
174: Starocci TF over Kennedy 22-3 PSU
184: Truax Dec over Riggins 25-3 PSU
197: Brooks FT over Glazier 30-3 PSU
285: Kerkvliet MDec over Hill 34-3 PSU

Brands best hope is they start at 125 and they win the first 3 of 4.  

 

[TylerDurden]

125: Ayala dec Davis 3-0 Iowa 
133: Nagao dec Schriever 3-3
141: Woods dec Bartlett 6-3 Iowa
149: Kasak dec Rathjen 6-6
157: Franek dec Haines 9-6 Iowa
165: Mesenbrink major Caliendo 10-9 PSU
174: Starocci dec Kennedy 13-9 PSU
184: Truax major Riggins 17-9 PSU
197: Brooks major Glazier 21-9 PSU
285: Kerkvliet tech Hill 26-9 PSU

I gave three to Iowa, but I can see any or all of those results go the other way. Iowa is almost assured to show better than they did against Michigan, but it won't be close to enough. 

I'll agree with others who suggest that we see back-ups in this dual. I think a lot of us would love to see Arnold out there, but I don't think T&T will put him out against Starocci

[Pinnacle]

Iowa wins 2 or 3 matches by DEC. PSU gets the rest with some bonus mixed in. 

[Wrestleknownothing]

21 minutes ago, Mr. PeanutButter said:

If I were to lobotomize myself and go full homer, I'd pick a 5-5 split with decisions only and with 125, 141, 149, 157, and 165 going Iowa's way. Iowa gets the criteria win. 

More realistically, I think 3 wins would be good and 4 would be great. Iowa gives up bonus at heavyweight and most likely at 174 but I believe Glazier and Arnold (at 184) keep their losses to decisions. 

I have lobotomized MrPB in, but I do not have enough info from realistic MrPB to enter.

[Wrestleknownothing]

14 minutes ago, TheDFP said:

125: Davis over Ayala  3-0  PSU
133: Nagao Dec over Schriever 3-3
141: Bartlett Dec over Woods 6-3 PSU
149: Kasak MDec over Rathjen 10-3 PSU
157: Haines Dec over Franek 13-3 PSU
165: Mesenbrink MDec over Caliendo 17-3 PSU
174: Starocci TF over Kennedy 22-3 PSU
184: Truax Dec over Riggins 25-3 PSU
197: Brooks FT over Glazier 30-3 PSU
285: Kerkvliet MDec over Hill 34-3 PSU

Brands best hope is they start at 125 and they win the first 3 of 4.  

 

Did you mean Schriever over Nagao?

[OMW]

Franek isn't beating Haines.

Woods is going to bounce back and notch a win against whomever it is PSU sends out at 141.

 

[Wrestleknownothing]

7 minutes ago, Pinnacle said:

Iowa wins 2 or 3 matches by DEC. PSU gets the rest with some bonus mixed in. 

If you give me the 2 or 3 and where/what you think the bonus is I will put it in.

[Wrestleknownothing]

27 minutes ago, peanut said:

I think we might see a few backups wrestle, particularly on PSU’s side. 

As a single travel date (and assuming PSU does not use their one time exemption) they get to bring 3 extra. Do you think we get all 3 wrestling? If so, who is most likely?

[PortaJohn]

Quite a few pickem matches

125, 133 (Nagao is the slight favorite), 141 edge Iowa, 149 (Kasak could get Carvered), maybe 157 but I doubt it & 184 (if Arnold goes)...Iowa matches up well against the Nits

Edited February 5, 2024 by PortaJohn

[Wrestleknownothing]

7 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

Quite a few pickem matches

125, 133 (Nagao is the slight favorite), 141 edge Iowa, 149 (Kasak could get Carvered), maybe 157 but I doubt it & 184 (if Arnold goes)...Iowa matches up well against the Nits

JC has a thread for wafflers. This thread is for the bold.

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

Realistic prediction:

125 Ayala dec Davis 3-0

133 Nagao dec Schriever 3-3

141 Woods dec Bartlett 6-3

149 Kasak dec Rathjen 6-6

157 Franek dec Haines SV1 9-6

165 Caliendo dec MM 12-6

174 Stallroci dec Kennedy 12-9

184 Truax dec Riggins 12-12

197 Brooks dec Glaizer 15-12 PSU

HWT Kerk dec Hill 18-12 PSU

[nhs67]

1 hour ago, Grecojones said:

I called it in the Michigan thread aswell. I may actually have been the first to call it. 

I doubt it.

I was screaming it at my television after Lemley destroyed Woods.  I am a bit slow to the plate, too.