Best 141 Pounder

[silver-medal]

Mendez....Woods....Bartlett...Jack....Hardy...McNeil

 

I say Mendez...at this point in time.  He's jumped a few levels since last season in terms of defense and top game.  

[Hammerlock3]

woods is a really tough out, id give him the edge over mendez

[Ohio Elite]

8 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

woods is a really tough out, id give him the edge over mendez

It's a shame no dual between the 2 teams again this year

[Hammerlock3]

4 minutes ago, Ohio Elite said:

It's a shame no dual between the 2 teams again this year

yeah why?

i know there are conference hoops to work around but obviously we have to get PSU iowa every year, you'd think they could work it out. Iowa tOSU is a more compelling dual than Iowa PSU at this point, cause Iowa has no shot, and historically get matches they won in the conference and duals turned on them anyway, so who cares?

Edited December 4, 2023 by Hammerlock3

[Gus]

Woods has the best track record. Mendez is having the best season for far. Bartlett will be a factor also just doesn't have the matches this season against high level competition. The other guys are a tier below at in my opinion. 

[Ohio Elite]

1 minute ago, Hammerlock3 said:

yeah why?

i know there are conference hoops to work around but obviously we have to get PSU iowa every year, you'd think they could work it out. Iowa tOSU is a more compelling dual than Iowa PSU at this point, cause Iowa has no shot, and historically get matches they won in the conference and duals turned on them anyway, so who cares?

100% agree. Last time they met was when Karchula beat Marinelli. That dual was a barn burner! Iowa won.

[Hammerlock3]

1 minute ago, Gus said:

Woods has the best track record. Mendez is having the best season for far. Bartlett will be a factor also just doesn't have the matches this season against high level competition. The other guys are a tier below at in my opinion. 

do you think bartlett, who i'll never count out because he's tough and PSU, is actually sort of modest talent? He doesn't have freakish scoring ability nor the kyle dake close match genius.

[MPhillips]

2 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

4 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

bartlett, who i'll never count out because he's tough and PSU, 

5 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

is actually sort of modest talent?

 

 

I think that's a pretty fair assessment.

[silver-medal]

I do want to mention that Mendez beat a very tough Ryan Jack (who had just beaten a very good Lachlan McNeil) by snapping his head so hard that it bounced off the mat like a PSU dodgeball.  He used it to set up his go behind.  

[Gus]

20 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

do you think bartlett, who i'll never count out because he's tough and PSU, is actually sort of modest talent? He doesn't have freakish scoring ability nor the kyle dake close match genius.

Just watch Bartlett's match against Nick Lee at world team trials. Athleticism is not Barlett's issue. He is hesitant to pull the trigger on leg attacks against the top guys. 

[Hammerlock3]

2 minutes ago, Gus said:

Just watch Bartlett's match against Nick Lee at world team trials. Athleticism is not Barlett's issue. He is hesitant to pull the trigger on leg attacks against the top guys. 

Lee is not an athlete either. But maybe that supports your point, the difference is one pulls the trigger.

[silver-medal]

Wouldn't Lee and Bartlett be familiar with each other?  Or is Lee not training at NLWC?

[MPhillips]

31 minutes ago, silver-medal said:

  Or is Lee not training at NLWC?

For a split second I thought this was a hysterical jab at HWC...

[Wrestleknownothing]

41 minutes ago, silver-medal said:

Wouldn't Lee and Bartlett be familiar with each other?  Or is Lee not training at NLWC?

They sure would. Bartlett went to Serbia to be Lee's warm up partner at Worlds.

[Hammerlock3]

49 minutes ago, silver-medal said:

Wouldn't Lee and Bartlett be familiar with each other?  Or is Lee not training at NLWC?

what was the purpose of this question?

[Le duke]

Just watch Bartlett's match against Nick Lee at world team trials. Athleticism is not Barlett's issue. He is hesitant to pull the trigger on leg attacks against the top guys. 

This.

Bartlett’s problem is not athletic ability. At all.


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[buckshot]

3 hours ago, Gus said:

Just watch Bartlett's match against Nick Lee at world team trials. Athleticism is not Barlett's issue. He is hesitant to pull the trigger on leg attacks against the top guys. 

Bartlett wins plenty of matches w/o taking risks. I don't think it's the most fun style to watch but you can't argue with the results. Even in his match against Cornella he was never at risk of losing, he's very similar to the way RBY used to wrestle Desanto. If RBY would have got into a shooting match he still would have won 80% of the time but if he was careful Desanto had no chance. It's like if Floyd Mayweather Jr wrestled. 

Edited December 5, 2023 by buckshot

[TylerDurden]

5 hours ago, Gus said:

Woods has the best track record. Mendez is having the best season for far. Bartlett will be a factor also just doesn't have the matches this season against high level competition. The other guys are a tier below at in my opinion. 

This is the correct answer. 

[TylerDurden]

3 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said:

what was the purpose of this question?

I'm assuming it was to suggest that the match was close because of familiarity. 

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

Woods is the best and the favorite to win it this year.  Just too big, long and quick.  And he's super tough on top.

[Paul158]

3 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Woods is the best and the favorite to win it this year.  Just too big, long and quick.  And he's super tough on top.

Wager . He barely beat a very good Echemendia ranked 14th. The takedown call was oh so very close. 

[Paul158]

19 hours ago, silver-medal said:

Mendez....Woods....Bartlett...Jack....Hardy...McNeil

 

I say Mendez...at this point in time.  He's jumped a few levels since last season in terms of defense and top game.  

It will be very close . Woods is in like his 8th year and a very seasoned pro. Mendez is settling in at a knew weight. He is just starting his second year as a true sophomore. These are all extremely good wrestlers mentioned. Its a very long season and we are just getting started.

[CHROMEBIRD]

Exciting field this year. I'm biased towards Woods but must admit that he's looked pretty flat, definitely not as dynamic at times so far this season. I trust that he'll pull it together by the spring.

If Alirez wasn't taking an ORS I think I'd give him maybe a 30% chance of repeating this year. Tough weight.

[flyingcement]

I am thinking something like 30% Mendez, 30% Bartlett, 30% Woods, 10% all others combined