PortaJohn Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 I get it Buckeye fans. We have James Franklin 2 1 I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Looks like Ohio state is exceeding the experts' predictions thus far this year, rankings wise. So, why are so many Penn State wrestling fans so critical of anything Ohio State wrestling? They've got to be the most insecure fan base in sports 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Coming from Porta I have say he should know. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threadkilla Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 16 minutes ago, Fred said: Looks like Ohio state is exceeding the experts' predictions thus far this year, rankings wise. So, why are so many Penn State wrestling fans so critical of anything Ohio State wrestling? They've got to be the most insecure fan base in sports Aww, Freddy you are projecting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted December 2, 2023 Author Share Posted December 2, 2023 27 minutes ago, ionel said: Coming from Porta I have say he should know. I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 28 minutes ago, Fred said: Looks like Ohio state is exceeding the experts' predictions thus far this year, rankings wise. So, why are so many Penn State wrestling fans so critical of anything Ohio State wrestling? They've got to be the most insecure fan base in sports cinnabon is the most insecure fan in the world, don't know about the rest of the fan base. Is tOSU doing well? mendez and demilio looked good. "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. PeanutButter Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Would be interesting to get some numbers on this but I think this sentiment is a little overblown. I don't follow the program assiduously, but I believe they have been hammered by injuries lately which could contribute to some of the top recruits having "down" performances. On the other hand, Mendez is looking like the favorite to win the title, as of this moment at least. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 bouzakis got third, the early loss wasn't a good luck but you can't say he had a bad tournament 2 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokemonster Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Hammerlock3 said: bouzakis got third, the early loss wasn't a good luck but you can't say he had a bad tournament Turns out Knox was 1 pt shy of making the finals, so the kid had a great tourney. Bouzakis wasn't the only one upset by him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, pokemonster said: Turns out Knox was 1 pt shy of making the finals, so the kid had a great tourney. Bouzakis wasn't the only one upset by him. Apparently Knox bonused his way through 2 D3 tourneys last year as a high schooler. He needs to hire Bo Bassett’s social media team Edited December 3, 2023 by 1032004 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Fred said: Looks like Ohio state is exceeding the experts' predictions thus far this year, rankings wise. So, why are so many Penn State wrestling fans so critical of anything Ohio State wrestling? They've got to be the most insecure fan base in sports Is Porta John a Penn State fan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said: cinnabon is the most insecure fan in the world, don't know about the rest of the fan base. Is tOSU doing well? mendez and demilio looked good. With 4 freshman and a true sophomore. They are right in this team race. It was a good tournament. Mistakes were made . They will go back to Columbus and improve. Unfortunately we lost Sasso for the year when some idiot shot him. I for one am glad he survived. This team is getting better by the week. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted December 3, 2023 Author Share Posted December 3, 2023 21 minutes ago, Paul158 said: Is Porta John a Penn State fan? I am. But I do honestly believe Tom Ryan isn't a good coach I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: I am. But I do honestly believe Tom Ryan isn't a good coach By what measure… so that someone might evaluate your belief Edited December 3, 2023 by Fred 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 37 minutes ago, Fred said: By what measure… so that someone might evaluate your belief what if he had said, he's not a good in the room coach? 1 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 45 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: I am. But I do honestly believe Tom Ryan isn't a good coach I'm a big fan Of Ohio State and Penn State. I'm from Ohio and my nephew who is from Ohio was a 2 time all-American for Penn State. What Cael and his coaching staff has done is amazing . Cael will surpass Dan Gable no doubt. Tom Ryan and his coaching staff have done a tremendous job. Its just when you try to compare there is good size gap. But trust me there are a lot of division ! teams who would love to have the success that Tom Ryan and his coaching staff has had the last few years. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 57 minutes ago, Fred said: By what measure… so that someone might evaluate your belief Maybe PortaJohn is just being a toilet lid arm chair quarterback. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 1 hour ago, PortaJohn said: I am. But I do honestly believe Tom Ryan isn't a good coach lol just because he’s not Cael doesn’t mean he’s “not good.” They do seem to have a decent amount of guys that have their best years as freshmen (Martin, Tomasello), but they’ve also had guys steadily improve (Romero). And Luke Pletcher from 2019 to 2020 might be one of the better 1 year improvements in recent memory. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 4 hours ago, Fred said: By what measure… so that someone might evaluate your belief They have two #1 ranked recruiting classes competing this year, yet they are projected to finish eleventh. Perhaps after this tournament their projected finish will improve, but eleventh is rough given their recruiting. 1 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antitroll2828 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 3 hours ago, 1032004 said: lol just because he’s not Cael doesn’t mean he’s “not good.” They do seem to have a decent amount of guys that have their best years as freshmen (Martin, Tomasello), but they’ve also had guys steadily improve (Romero). And Luke Pletcher from 2019 to 2020 might be one of the better 1 year improvements in recent memory. The pletcher bump probably had more to do with McKenna graduating and pletcher not having to make that brutal cut to 133 anymore 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antitroll2828 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Well you can make the case they haven’t had an ncaa champ since 2018 when Synder won his 3rd and they haven’t had a champ not named Synder since Myles Martin in 2016 , that’s a pretty serious drought and this year doesn’t look great either , guys still don’t improve on bottom which has been an issue for a long time but Tom Ryan built that program up to championship level so no way you can say he’s a bad coach but maybe his message has gotten stale , maybe they haven’t evolved in other areas of training like Penn State or maybe they need to bring in a big name outsider as an assistant but if they want to win another title and battle it out with PSU again they need to do something different Once you compare them to anyone other then PSU and Iowa they are elite as it gets still. 60 something programs would kill to be on Ohio states level year in and year out and would jump on Tom Ryan in a minute if he ever left. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgaveMaria Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Ohio State has as many NCAA titles as Iowa over the past decade. Three seconds in that time. Ryan is doing OK. 4 ” Never attribute to inspiration that which can be adequately explained by delusion”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 5 hours ago, Antitroll2828 said: Well you can make the case they haven’t had an ncaa champ since 2018 when Synder won his 3rd and they haven’t had a champ not named Synder since Myles Martin in 2016 , that’s a pretty serious drought and this year doesn’t look great either , guys still don’t improve on bottom which has been an issue for a long time but Tom Ryan built that program up to championship level so no way you can say he’s a bad coach but maybe his message has gotten stale , maybe they haven’t evolved in other areas of training like Penn State or maybe they need to bring in a big name outsider as an assistant but if they want to win another title and battle it out with PSU again they need to do something different Once you compare them to anyone other then PSU and Iowa they are elite as it gets still. 60 something programs would kill to be on Ohio states level year in and year out and would jump on Tom Ryan in a minute if he ever left. I think at least one of Pletcher, Moore or Sasso probably wins in 2020. But we’ll never know 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randyfoxwell Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 10 hours ago, Paul158 said: Is Porta John a Penn State fan? One can only assume since he mentioned James Franklin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, randyfoxwell said: One can only assume since he mentioned James Franklin And said “we,” an easy sign of a PSU fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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