Republican Oversight Committee rejects Hunter Biden's request to give his testimony in public

[VakAttack]

I've mostly avoided politics the last few weeks, but LOL at these buffoons.  Look at me and Josh Hawley agreeing on something!

 

 

 

Edited November 28, 2023 by VakAttack

[jross]

Wow.  My first instinct is to be 100% in agreement with you and jump to 'control the narrative' reasoning.

However...  Is confidential information being discussed, ongoing investigations, witnesses to protect, etc.?  

[Plasmodium]

Why Hunter Biden would say anything beyond "5th" is beyond me.  There have been so many sensational and unsubstantiated accusations by Republicans at the highest level of government there is no way he can provide any information that won't be removed from context and twisted against him.  That is why they want it behind closed doors.

[headshuck]

“Instead, two Capitol Hill Democrats have told POLITICO that they view the politics on the issue as fixed, so the prospect of going on offense is all risk and no reward. In general, they are comfortable defending the president, but not his son.

And some don’t just abstain from the debate. Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-N.Y.) called the first son “a disturbed man” who “may have very well done some improper things.” And Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.) told ABC News in August that the president’s son “did a lot of really unlawful and wrong things.” Nadler and Raskin are the top Democrats on committees involved in the Republicans’ impeachment probe.

Hunter Biden’s team finds this troubling.

“Intentionally or not, they’re betting on the political expediency of sacrificing Hunter,” said the friend who spoke to POLITICO.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/28/hunter-biden-legal-strategy-00127787

[Offthemat]

Hearings behind closed doors can follow a line of questioning that better examines the witness than the five minute flailing of a public hearing.  They should use the same rules in public hearings that are used behind closed doors.  A private hearing could be considered a deposition to guide questioning in the abbreviated public hearing.  And they haven’t ruled out a public hearing, they just want the private hearing first. 

[headshuck]

I suspect everyone knows that, but doesn’t make the same impact.

[Paul158]

3 minutes ago, headshuck said:

I suspect everyone knows that, but doesn’t make the same impact.

All I know is if you, Offthemat or myself had done a fraction of what Hunter has done we would be behind bars for quite some time. I wonder if we would still be able to get on the forum? lol

[Paul158]

Even if Hunter gets convicted and has jail time wouldn't his dad just give him a pardon?

Edited November 28, 2023 by Paul158
missed a word

[VakAttack]

Spin away, boys.  Bannon, Jim Jordan et al all literally refused any questioning at all, and that was ok.  Now Hunter Biden is literally offering himself up to you in public and you're like "nah, we need this behind closed doors".  This is not a criminal trial.  Meanwhile the committee of Republican bulldogs is afraid that ol' crackhead Hunter Biden will slap them around in a public hearing?  Nah, they'd rather have it behind doors where it can be leaked out piecemeal and spun without any context.  Truly amazing times.

[Paul158]

1 minute ago, VakAttack said:

Spin away, boys.  Bannon, Jim Jordan et al all literally refused any questioning at all, and that was ok.  Now Hunter Biden is literally offering himself up to you in public and you're like "nah, we need this behind closed doors".  This is not a criminal trial.  Meanwhile the committee of Republican bulldogs is afraid that ol' crackhead Hunter Biden will slap them around in a public hearing?  Nah, they'd rather have it behind doors where it can be leaked out piecemeal and spun without any context.  Truly amazing times.

So you are worried that the Republicans might take a page out of the Democrats playbook and use it against Hunter. That is really rich.

[Plasmodium]

9 minutes ago, Paul158 said:

So you are worried that the Republicans might take a page out of the Democrats playbook and use it against Hunter. That is really rich.

This isn't even remotely related to what he said.

[Plasmodium]

15 minutes ago, Paul158 said:

All I know is if you, Offthemat or myself had done a fraction of what Hunter has done we would be behind bars for quite some time. I wonder if we would still be able to get on the forum? lol

I've done twice what Hunter has done and I'm free as a bird.

[Offthemat]

12 minutes ago, Paul158 said:

So you are worried that the Republicans might take a page out of the Democrats playbook and use it against Hunter. That is really rich.

Just exactly what Dan Goldman did after the Devon Archer hearing, making up something like “illusion of influence.”

[VakAttack]

25 minutes ago, Paul158 said:

So you are worried that the Republicans might take a page out of the Democrats playbook and use it against Hunter. That is really rich.

Literally BOTH sides did this after the Archer hearing (and every private hearing).  And yes, I would like to just hear the man speak for myself.  As would Republican Senator Josh Hawley, apparently.  I note you avoided the part about the people from the other end of the political spectrum simply refusing to acknowledge the subpoenas or testify at all.

[headshuck]

I've done twice what Hunter has done and I'm free as a bird.

Are you as good of a painter as well?

[jross]

26 minutes ago, Plasmodium said:

This isn't even remotely related to what he said.

True concerning Vak.  That is not necessarily true for 'they.'

The leaked evidence against Hunter seems relatively accurate and damning... a person cannot be shamed much more than Hunter has already been... so assume Hunter's team is in damage control. 

Why would 'they' offer Hunter to testify in public?  

[VakAttack]

1 minute ago, jross said:

True concerning Vak.  That is not necessarily true for 'they.'

The leaked evidence against Hunter seems relatively accurate and damning... a person cannot be shamed much more than Hunter has already been... so assume Hunter's team is in damage control. 

Why would 'they' offer Hunter to testify in public?  

Many reasons.  The Occam's Razor reason would be it's way to most directly tell his story without requiring "spinning" from either side.  if it's just him talking, nobody can "misquote" him.  It will just be "Hunter Biden says 'X'", not "Jim Comer says Hunter Biden said 'Y'" or "Jamie Raskin says Hunter Biden said 'Z'".

[Plasmodium]

21 minutes ago, headshuck said:

Are you as good of a painter as well?

I'm better, but I wish I had his broker.

[Offthemat]

1 hour ago, VakAttack said:

Literally BOTH sides did this after the Archer hearing (and every private hearing).  

The accounts given by republicans were accurate, those given by dimocrats, especially Goldman, weren’t. 

 

2 hours ago, VakAttack said:

I note you avoided the part about the people from the other end of the political spectrum simply refusing to acknowledge the subpoenas or testify at all.

I note that you are attempting to equate the Comer Committee to the Nancy Polosi Kangaroo Committee when there is no comparison. 

[Offthemat]

1 hour ago, VakAttack said:

Many reasons.  The Occam's Razor reason would be it's way to most directly tell his story without requiring "spinning" from either side.  if it's just him talking, nobody can "misquote" him.  It will just be "Hunter Biden says 'X'", not "Jim Comer says Hunter Biden said 'Y'" or "Jamie Raskin says Hunter Biden said 'Z'".

The reason is that given five minutes to contain any questions, he can stammer and wax irrelevant till the time runs out and then a dimocrat can spread praise and glory on him for the next five minutes. 

[VakAttack]

3 hours ago, Offthemat said:

The accounts given by republicans were accurate, those given by dimocrats, especially Goldman, weren’t. 

 

I note that you are attempting to equate the Comer Committee to the Nancy Polosi Kangaroo Committee when there is no comparison. 

I understand this is what you want to be true. 

[Wrestleknownothing]

1 hour ago, VakAttack said:

I understand this is what you want to be true. 

Desperately.

[WrestlingRasta]

It is pretty cute those defying their own subpoena saying nahhhhhhhh we don’t want to talk the guy we’re trying to nail down in public, where we keep getting bitch slapped with every next “This is it!”

MAGA’s are cute….aren’t they?

Edited November 29, 2023 by WrestlingRasta

[Offthemat]

https://jonathanturley.org/2023/11/28/hunter-has-a-hearing-date-but-he-has-demands/
 

“House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer, R-Ky., quickly disabused Hunter of the point of the subpoena and said that he will indeed appear in a private session before a public hearing. That is precisely what the Democrats have done, including with dozens of witnesses in the January 6th committee.

This is a bad start for Hunter, who is a lawyer. For years, he has been able to manipulate the media and create ever changing rationales for his role in the alleged corruption scheme from expert to addict to victim.

Those spins could now come at a cost.  While the Justice Department slow walked his investigation and allowed the statute of limitations to run, any misrepresentation could be charged as a new felony with a new statute of limitations.

Hunter will appear in the place set by the Committee. He can choose his answers, but not his forum. Putting the bravado of the letter aside, he now has a date with Congress and he will no longer be able to orchestrate how he will appear in public.

[Wrestleknownothing]

57 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

https://jonathanturley.org/2023/11/28/hunter-has-a-hearing-date-but-he-has-demands/
 

“House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer, R-Ky., quickly disabused Hunter of the point of the subpoena and said that he will indeed appear in a private session before a public hearing. That is precisely what the Democrats have done, including with dozens of witnesses in the January 6th committee.

This is a bad start for Hunter, who is a lawyer. For years, he has been able to manipulate the media and create ever changing rationales for his role in the alleged corruption scheme from expert to addict to victim.

Those spins could now come at a cost.  While the Justice Department slow walked his investigation and allowed the statute of limitations to run, any misrepresentation could be charged as a new felony with a new statute of limitations.

Hunter will appear in the place set by the Committee. He can choose his answers, but not his forum. Putting the bravado of the letter aside, he now has a date with Congress and he will no longer be able to orchestrate how he will appear in public.

If we hold it in public, how are we gonna make stuff up?