Climate Hoax

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Bill Gates’ cravings for steak finally got to him.

[ionel]

35 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

 

Does this mean cows are DEI?    

[Lipdrag]

On 5/3/2025 at 8:48 PM, ionel said:

Does this mean cows are DEI?    

Bio-DEI.  Cows finally getting their equity and inclusion in the woke-world.  I woulda thunk cows would get more love from the greenies anyway - they are vegan for goodness sake.  And organic, donchaknow.

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it truly is just a grift

 

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wonder who is getting paid in this one

Natural gas supporters argue judge is intentionally delaying fight over I-2066 | Just The News

[ionel]

27 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

it truly is just a grift

 

I think for the sake of the earth and climate all waste should stay within the county landfill(s) in which you or business etc reside.  For those who really want to help the planet make your own backyard landfill.  OK for rural counties that don't have the financial means to afford equipment, labor etc then 4 contiguous counties can work together with a single landfill.  

Waste should not cross county much less state lines.  

Edited May 9 by ionel

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[Lipdrag]

The climateering hoax and the recycling hoax go hand-in-hand.  And they are crashing against each other with the end-of-life realities of the hallowed solar panels and windmill blades.  This article is a long read.

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2025/05/15/wasting_away_in_wind-and-solarville_1110296.html?mc_cid=9c25da5168&mc_eid=ac81c0c239

 

I don't mind if any individual wants to use his/her precious time and life energy sorting garbage.  It reminds me of stamp or bug collectors and makes me smile at kindly eccentrics. 

The problem is when the eccentrics become totalitarians and say that any eccentricity they can imagine must be mandated on the non-believers.  Then we have eco-Torquemadas. 

On a business trip to Germany I had to stay over the weekend.  I decided to drive through the countryside on Saturday morning and came upon a huge traffic jam on a two lane rural road.  As I inched forward in the jam that lasted about 30 minutes I came to the cause:  Everyone in town was going to the recycling center to drop off their sorted garbage at a very designated time and place.  The "climate damage" from the cars idling there must have been incredible!!  And think of the cost at about $8 per gallon of gas.  At least the government got about $6 in taxes on that $8 of gas.  Imagine how a whole society can get caught up in self-perpetuated delusions.  Good thing nothing like that ever happens here.

 

[Caveira]

1 hour ago, Lipdrag said:

The climateering hoax and the recycling hoax go hand-in-hand.  And they are crashing against each other with the end-of-life realities of the hallowed solar panels and windmill blades.  This article is a long read.

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2025/05/15/wasting_away_in_wind-and-solarville_1110296.html?mc_cid=9c25da5168&mc_eid=ac81c0c239

 

I don't mind if any individual wants to use his/her precious time and life energy sorting garbage.  It reminds me of stamp or bug collectors and makes me smile at kindly eccentrics. 

The problem is when the eccentrics become totalitarians and say that any eccentricity they can imagine must be mandated on the non-believers.  Then we have eco-Torquemadas. 

On a business trip to Germany I had to stay over the weekend.  I decided to drive through the countryside on Saturday morning and came upon a huge traffic jam on a two lane rural road.  As I inched forward in the jam that lasted about 30 minutes I came to the cause:  Everyone in town was going to the recycling center to drop off their sorted garbage at a very designated time and place.  The "climate damage" from the cars idling there must have been incredible!!  And think of the cost at about $8 per gallon of gas.  At least the government got about $6 in taxes on that $8 of gas.  Imagine how a whole society can get caught up in self-perpetuated delusions.  Good thing nothing like that ever happens here.

 

Sound on.  Must watch 

 

 

[red viking]

7 hours ago, Lipdrag said:

The climateering hoax and the recycling hoax go hand-in-hand.  And they are crashing against each other with the end-of-life realities of the hallowed solar panels and windmill blades.  This article is a long read.

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2025/05/15/wasting_away_in_wind-and-solarville_1110296.html?mc_cid=9c25da5168&mc_eid=ac81c0c239

 

I don't mind if any individual wants to use his/her precious time and life energy sorting garbage.  It reminds me of stamp or bug collectors and makes me smile at kindly eccentrics. 

The problem is when the eccentrics become totalitarians and say that any eccentricity they can imagine must be mandated on the non-believers.  Then we have eco-Torquemadas. 

On a business trip to Germany I had to stay over the weekend.  I decided to drive through the countryside on Saturday morning and came upon a huge traffic jam on a two lane rural road.  As I inched forward in the jam that lasted about 30 minutes I came to the cause:  Everyone in town was going to the recycling center to drop off their sorted garbage at a very designated time and place.  The "climate damage" from the cars idling there must have been incredible!!  And think of the cost at about $8 per gallon of gas.  At least the government got about $6 in taxes on that $8 of gas.  Imagine how a whole society can get caught up in self-perpetuated delusions.  Good thing nothing like that ever happens here.

 

What's a "climateering" hoax? 

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definition of climateering hoax

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[Lipdrag]

I believe this guy knows his facts and more about his customers' preferences and cars in general than Mary Barra - GM's CEO who declared GM would soon be 100% BEV before getting hit with the reality stick and backing off to "it will take decades".

 

 

https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/toyota-boss-akio-toyoda-evs-dirtier-than-hybrids

[mspart]

I'm with him on that,   Hybrids are the way to go. 

mspart

[Lipdrag]

Settled Science vs Political Policy

This article is very interesting (at least to me).  

http://jewishworldreview.com/0625/hollis062625.php

Some excerpts for your enjoyment:

“In 2022, Powerline Blog's John Hinderaker wrote a series of articles about how Sri Lanka's president decided to ban synthetic fertilizer (in pursuit of "climate change" objectives, of course), resulting in the collapse of the country's agriculture and its economy. After months without food, heating oil and other necessities, Sri Lankans stormed the presidential palace in Colombo and forced their president to flee the country on a military jet.”

“The "science" around "climate change" isn't "settled" either. That the climate changes is certain (just ask the people making their way past the glaciers 20,000 years ago); the extent to which human activity changes it is not. When I was in high school, we were warned about "the coming ice age."

By the time I was in law school, it was "global warming." Predictions about the "ozone hole" and Antarctic ice have been wrong.”

“The footprint of "settled science" shows us that politicians who tie their pet policies to scientific theories are almost always wrong.”

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[mspart]

3 hours ago, Lipdrag said:

Settled Science vs Political Policy

This article is very interesting (at least to me).  

http://jewishworldreview.com/0625/hollis062625.php

Some excerpts for your enjoyment:

“In 2022, Powerline Blog's John Hinderaker wrote a series of articles about how Sri Lanka's president decided to ban synthetic fertilizer (in pursuit of "climate change" objectives, of course), resulting in the collapse of the country's agriculture and its economy. After months without food, heating oil and other necessities, Sri Lankans stormed the p

 

Heating oil needed in Sri Lanka?   I find that suspect.   It's a tropical climate.   Maybe 80F is cold there, who knows.

mspart

[whaletail]

17 hours ago, Lipdrag said:

Settled Science vs Political Policy

This article is very interesting (at least to me).  

http://jewishworldreview.com/0625/hollis062625.php

Some excerpts for your enjoyment:

“In 2022, Powerline Blog's John Hinderaker wrote a series of articles about how Sri Lanka's president decided to ban synthetic fertilizer (in pursuit of "climate change" objectives, of course), resulting in the collapse of the country's agriculture and its economy. After months without food, heating oil and other necessities, Sri Lankans stormed the presidential palace in Colombo and forced their president to flee the country on a military jet.”

“The "science" around "climate change" isn't "settled" either. That the climate changes is certain (just ask the people making their way past the glaciers 20,000 years ago); the extent to which human activity changes it is not. When I was in high school, we were warned about "the coming ice age."

By the time I was in law school, it was "global warming." Predictions about the "ozone hole" and Antarctic ice have been wrong.”

“The footprint of "settled science" shows us that politicians who tie their pet policies to scientific theories are almost always wrong.”

I'll read the article when I have a minute.

But whether he was warned about a coming ice age in high school (is he serious?), or not, the science surrounding climate change is consistent. Antarctic ice melt and ice core sample data (not to mention 100+ years of temperature records) illustrate our climate has been warming since the mid 17th century. So far at least, the author agrees.

Although correlation doesn't indicate causation, it's certainly interesting that the warming timeline begins with the Industrial Revolution and accelerates in lockstep with our fossil fuel consumption.

Science has also consistently demonstrated the mechanism by which fossil fuel burning might heat up a planet with our atmosphere (through the depletion of atmospheric ozone, increased carbon dioxide production, and subsequent greenhouse effect).

A mechanism that matches our own atmospheric observations.

But frankly, who cares whether we're wholly responsible, merely a contributor, or somehow, completely innocent?

Certainly not the consequences, which we're only just beginning to experience (e.g. wildfires and hurricanes are suddenly becoming much more common, and much more destructive).

And the author's 'gotcha' comments about incorrect predictions? Early predictions about Antarctic ice melt and ozone depletion were wrong. What he neglects to mention? That the predictions were actually way too optimistic.

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yes only going back 150 years makes it look menacing

 

[red viking]

4 hours ago, whaletail said:

I'll read the article when I have a minute.

But whether he was warned about a coming ice age in high school (is he serious?), or not, the science surrounding climate change is consistent. Antarctic ice melt and ice core sample data (not to mention 100+ years of temperature records) illustrate our climate has been warming since the mid 17th century. So far at least, the author agrees.

Although correlation doesn't indicate causation, it's certainly interesting that the warming timeline begins with the Industrial Revolution and accelerates in lockstep with our fossil fuel consumption.

Science has also consistently demonstrated the mechanism by which fossil fuel burning might heat up a planet with our atmosphere (through the depletion of atmospheric ozone, increased carbon dioxide production, and subsequent greenhouse effect).

A mechanism that matches our own atmospheric observations.

But frankly, who cares whether we're wholly responsible, merely a contributor, or somehow, completely innocent?

Certainly not the consequences, which we're only just beginning to experience (e.g. wildfires and hurricanes are suddenly becoming much more common, and much more destructive).

And the author's 'gotcha' comments about incorrect predictions? Early predictions about Antarctic ice melt and ozone depletion were wrong. What he neglects to mention? That the predictions were actually way too optimistic.

Don't waste ur time talking science to these people. Its over their heads. Besides, they'll change the subject to how bad our policies are to deal w global warming. 

[Offthemat]

7 hours ago, whaletail said:

Certainly not the consequences, which we're only just beginning to experience (e.g. wildfires and hurricanes are suddenly becoming much more common, and much more destructive).

You’re too late.  Even though you are making statements that are untrue (quoted) the climate change issue has been discarded for the race to generate all the power possible to enable AI.  Solar and wind just won’t cut it.  

[red viking]

2 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

You’re too late.  Even though you are making statements that are untrue (quoted) the climate change issue has been discarded for the race to generate all the power possible to enable AI.  Solar and wind just won’t cut it.  

That may be true (it's an opinion), it doesn't change the science that man is zero doubt causing global warming.