Climate Hoax

[Caveira]

Great speech.  Good part starts around 3:06

 

[Scouts Honor]

 

[fishbane]

21 hours ago, mspart said:

There are 3 periods of significant rapid rise.   I have those circled.    None of them started as low as we are now.   I'm guessing man had nothing to do with the earlier instances. 

 

 

mspart

The increases you've circled in red coincide with some of the largest mass extinction events in Earth's history.  I think that coincidence justifies the concern scientists have with the current rate of increase.  It should be pointed out that the time scale on the x axis in the Post graphic is in millions of years and the increase circled in black has occurred over less than 100 years.

[Scouts Honor]

thats whats causing global warming

too many species!!!!

the earth is about to correct itself again

[fishbane]

1 hour ago, Scouts Honor said:

thats whats causing global warming

too many species!!!!

the earth is about to correct itself again

So you're saying the inhabitants of Earth are causing global warming?  I thought that was the thing that was up for debate.

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1 hour ago, fishbane said:

So you're saying the inhabitants of Earth are causing global warming?  I thought that was the thing that was up for debate.

lol

so it's not the industrial ... it's just the number of species

[Scouts Honor]

climate cultists for decades: the ACTIVITIES of HUMANs are destroying the world

me: points out there are more species than ever

climate cultist: see the inhabitants are destroying the world

 

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[Lipdrag]

 

Where was this numbnuts and all of his cohorts when the EU was all sucking up to Greta and the Climateers?  The car companies all sucked up and said EV, EV, EV, EV.  Except for Toyota and Honda.  Both of them said, hmmm, maybe hybrids are better all around and achieve almost all of the same goals at 1/10th the cost and problems.  But no, Zipse and BMW was all lapdog to the regulators and cheered rule after rule and ban after ban.

 

[Lipdrag]

 

This is more than $1,300 per car sold in the EU!  Talk about self-immolation!  The climateers will kill themselves and everyone else along with them with nutsy regulations and bans and fines that have next to zero effect on anything if they are allowed to.  People in the EU must rein in their nut cases and do it soon.  Oh, by the way, we need to do it also.

[Saylors_Tiny_Willie]

15 minutes ago, Lipdrag said:

 

This is more than $1,300 per car sold in the EU!  Talk about self-immolation!  The climateers will kill themselves and everyone else along with them with nutsy regulations and bans and fines that have next to zero effect on anything if they are allowed to.  People in the EU must rein in their nut cases and do it soon.  Oh, by the way, we need to do it also.

EVs are the future.

You sound like a buggy whip enthusiast.

[ionel]

4 minutes ago, Saylors_Tiny_Willie said:

EVs are the future.

You sound like a buggy whip enthusiast.

... and where are they going to get their power from? 

[Saylors_Tiny_Willie]

1 hour ago, ionel said:

... and where are they going to get their power from? 

Where do we get our power from now?

[Lipdrag]

1 hour ago, Saylors_Tiny_Willie said:

EVs are the future.

You sound like a buggy whip enthusiast.

No one had to ban or fine buggy whips for them to find a new demand/supply equilibrium in the economy  Natural economic processes and decisions by consumers prevailed. 
 

The future needs no bans or fines or subsidies to get here.  If EVs are the future let them come naturally and not via the hoax and coercion.

 

 

[Saylors_Tiny_Willie]

57 minutes ago, Lipdrag said:

No one had to ban or fine buggy whips for them to find a new demand/supply equilibrium in the economy  Natural economic processes and decisions by consumers prevailed. 
 

The future needs no bans or fines or subsidies to get here.  If EVs are the future let them come naturally and not via the hoax and coercion.

 

 

Your terror of mundane things is amazing to watch.

[Lipdrag]

1 minute ago, Saylors_Tiny_Willie said:

Your terror of mundane things is amazing to watch.

This terror is from the Renault CEO, the country of Italy, the country of Czechia.  The EU fines don't affect me.

Your idea that bans and fines and the authority to coerce other humans are mundane is troubling.  How about if you drive what you want and I'll drive what I want and we leave each other alone?  

[ionel]

2 hours ago, Saylors_Tiny_Willie said:

Where do we get our power from now?

Diesel & coal & natural gas.

[Offthemat]

1 hour ago, ionel said:

Diesel & coal & natural gas.

The most reliable in cold weather being coal. 

[mspart]

3 hours ago, Saylors_Tiny_Willie said:

Where do we get our power from now?

As stated.   Where will we get the additional power required for AI and EVs?   That is the question.  

We  need fusion!

mspart

[ionel]

30 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

The most reliable in cold weather being coal. 

... solar and wind require dirty diesel. 

https://gothamist.com/news/new-yorks-rules-on-turbine-transportation-are-blowing-its-climate-goals-out-of-reach

The components of just one turbine require about 12 superload trailers, which are defined as any vehicles that exceed 16 feet in height or width, are longer than 160 feet, or are heavier than 200,000 pounds.

 

Edited November 4 by ionel

[mspart]

mspart

[Lipdrag]

2 hours ago, mspart said:

mspart

I thought congress mandated Mr. Fusions.  Only filthy capitalists are standing in the way of a Mr. Fusion in every car and in every house in America.

[Lipdrag]

Can't congress and the EU mandate the future better than this?  Can't they mandate profits, and physics, and what people want?

-These loses work out to be about $23 million in losses every day, just under a million per hour, about $16,000 per minute, Over $250 dollars lost every second.  And this is not counting the EV losses at Ford, GM, VW, BMW, Mercedes, Stellantis, Nissan, etc. etc. EVs are destroying value everywhere.  We need better mandates.  Or, maybe, no mandates.  Mandates are tired and overworked.  Let's give mandates a rest.

[ionel]

1 hour ago, Lipdrag said:

These loses work out to be about $23 million in losses every day, just under a million per hour, about $16,000 per minute, Over $250 dollars lost every second.  And this is not counting the EV losses at Ford, GM, VW, BMW, Mercedes, Stellantis, Nissan, etc. etc. EVs are destroying value everywhere.  

[RockLobster]

2 hours ago, Lipdrag said:

These loses work out to be about $23 million in losses every day, just under a million per hour, about $16,000 per minute, Over $250 dollars lost every second.  And this is not counting the EV losses at Ford, GM, VW, BMW, Mercedes, Stellantis, Nissan, etc. etc. EVs are destroying value everywhere. 

Cry my a river. There was never any value to be destroyed, just perceived value by investors with too much money.

The real loser is the climate.

We only have one earth, climate change is real, and if we keep pissing away investment dollars to chase more dollars instead of investing in making our planet habitable for our grandchildren and their grandchildren, then we're doing it wrong.

Billionaires keep dying with billions in the bank. Does anyone need a better definition of greed? More money than they could spend but little investment to improve the place that brought them life and the only place where humanity can survive.

And the earth continues to slowly get sicker.

It's turned into some kind of joke about "greenies." Laugh it up. But your great-great-great-grandchildren won't be laughing. And we will have left them with no options to turn to.

This earth is the only one we have. After it is too sick - everyone dies.

Forever.

Edited November 10 by RockLobster