Blaze beats Ramos!!!

[Dark Energy]

TD in SV!!! 4-1!!! Marcus Blaze -  HS kid beats #1 college ranked kid.  Wow!!!  Ever heard of such a a thing??

Edited November 5, 2023 by Dark Energy

[MNRodent]

And he beat the #1 ranked high school kid at his weight (Forrest) earlier.  Quite the performance.

[Dark Energy]

U17 world champ this year.  Class of 2025 for High School.  Kid is YOUNG!  Wow.  Again.  Have anyone heard of this kind of performance?  Any HS kid beat a #1 ranked college guy?

[Jason Bryant]

Possibly in the pre-internet era like old Midlands or Wilkes.

[Alces Alces Gigas]

  On 11/5/2023 at 11:51 PM, Jason Bryant said:

Possibly in the pre-internet era like old Midlands or Wilkes.

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Or US Open or maybe OTTs 

[MadMardigain]

  On 11/5/2023 at 11:55 PM, Alces Alces Gigas said:

Or US Open or maybe OTTs 

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Rare but it’s happened a few times.  It was freestyle but I recall the High School version of Jason Tsirtsis beating recent NCAA champ Darion Caldwell at Olympic trials. 

[11986]

Vague recall that Cary Kolat beat NCAA champ Sean O’Day while still in HS. 

[flyingcement]

Didn't Anthony Valencia have a big win over a college guy while still in HS?  Might have been FS which may or may not count

[FanOfPurdueWrestling]

Absolutely mind boggling, two Hs kids in that bracket with the potential to knock off the #1 ranked collegiate wrestler in their weight.

side questions- is this a bigger win than Ramos beating Lee last year in the Semis? 

[Crotalus]

  On 11/6/2023 at 12:14 AM, flyingcement said:

Didn't Anthony Valencia have a big win over a college guy while still in HS?  Might have been FS which may or may not count

He absolutely blitzed Tyler Caldwell (NCAA runner up to David Taylor) in freestyle. And that was when A. Valencia peaked.....

[11986]

  On 11/6/2023 at 12:22 AM, FanOfPurdueWrestling said:

side questions- is this a bigger win than Ramos beating Lee last year in the Semis? 

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No. Ramos stopping Lee from a potential 4th NCAA title beats pretty much anything that happens in the first weekend of the season. Impressive as it was for Blaze. 

[headshuck]

Ramos has always been unpredictable, that’s why the Gophers ran him off.

Same with Nagao.

Kidding of course.

[Wrestleknownothing]

  On 11/6/2023 at 1:16 AM, 11986 said:

No. Ramos stopping Lee from a potential 4th NCAA title beats pretty much anything that happens in the first weekend of the season. Impressive as it was for Blaze. 

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Ditto

[1032004]

Brayden Palmer of UTC over Blaze 6-4 in the finals

[Dark Energy]

Well that is confusing.  Palmer that good?  Blaze wiped out after Ramos win?  Ramos actually kinda not feeling well?  Or weird stuff happens sometimes?

[Corby]

  On 11/6/2023 at 11:37 AM, Dark Energy said:

Well that is confusing.  Palmer that good?  Blaze wiped out after Ramos win?  Ramos actually kinda not feeling well?  Or weird stuff happens sometimes?

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Palmer started his career at Clarion at 141 he was 133 the last 2 years and now down to 125. He's long and hard to finish on. His schedule is very favorable as well. The Scuffle has 1 weight where the guy who's supposed to win is inside the top 10. Scuffle is down this year big time 

[headshuck]

Ramos probably wanted a better finish here. Wow what a scramble.
https://fb.watch/o8Dv4s3Dj5/?mibextid=cr9u03

[JVStateChamp]

  On 11/6/2023 at 11:37 AM, Dark Energy said:

Well that is confusing.  Palmer that good?  Blaze wiped out after Ramos win?  Ramos actually kinda not feeling well?  Or weird stuff happens sometimes?

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I would say that a combination of factors contributed to Blaze's loss. Brayden Palmer came into the season ranked #10 at 133 pounds, and he is now ranked #20 at 125 pounds (which could change after this weekend). Blaze is an amazing wrestler, but it is really hard to win two matches against high-ranked college wrestlers, especially when he had to beat Jax Forrest just to get to the finals. Palmer is a very good wrestler, and he is very difficult to score on, as well as being very good at controlling opponents on top. Palmer pinned Nagao last year at the Southern Scuffle, so overall I would say that Blaze's loss was not a case of "weird stuff happens."

[Gantry]

Ramos was majored by DeAugustino at Big Tens last year and had a loss to Anothony Molton of Campbell.  Not to mention the three 1 point squeakers in a row at NCAAs, including the rabbit he pulled out of his hat in rideouts against Trombley. 

Obviously not to say Ramos is bad, but for a #1 guy he was vulnerable.  125 will be fun this year...

[Wrestlingfan11]

  On 11/5/2023 at 11:31 PM, Dark Energy said:

TD in SV!!! 4-1!!! Marcus Blaze -  HS kid beats #1 college ranked kid.  Wow!!!  Ever heard of such a a thing??

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Henry Cejudo took out a defending national champion while in high school. Shows you the type of talent this kid has.

[Jim L]

Didn't Damion Hahn a haver a victory over a NCAA champ while in HS?

Maybe it was "just" an AA 

[Dark Energy]

I’m seeing posts that suggest (what I think are) incredible High Schooler wins in freestyle vs college studs.  That is awesome.  

But curious about folkstyle wins by high schooler against the very best college kids.  Are some of those mentioned above folkstyle wins?

[11986]

  On 11/6/2023 at 4:56 PM, Jim L said:

Didn't Damion Hahn a haver a victory over a NCAA champ while in HS?

Maybe it was "just" an AA 

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Recall hearing  he beat Mark Branch while still in HS. Not sure if folk or free. 
 

[Jim L]

  On 11/6/2023 at 5:22 PM, 11986 said:

Recall hearing  he beat Mark Branch while still in HS. Not sure if folk or free. 
 

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Yes, that is what I was trying to recall

[CHROMEBIRD]

  On 11/6/2023 at 1:16 AM, 11986 said:

No. Ramos stopping Lee from a potential 4th NCAA title beats pretty much anything that happens in the first weekend of the season. Impressive as it was for Blaze. 

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Countdown to Jimmy Pastry posting about how Blaze could beat Spencer. 

 

  On 11/6/2023 at 4:03 AM, 1032004 said:

Brayden Palmer of UTC over Blaze 6-4 in the finals

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Make that Blaze and Palmer over Lee. LET'S GET TRANSITIVE