1032004 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Based on his tweet history I’m guessing Leeth will enjoy living in Texas much more than California Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnwtwg Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 4 hours ago, 1032004 said: Based on his tweet history I’m guessing Leeth will enjoy living in Texas much more than California Texas and Silicon Valley + NorCal are 100% interchangeable if you are comfortable swapping Patagonia vests and cowboy cosplay. 2 2 i am an idiot on the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRef Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 9 hours ago, bnwtwg said: Texas and Silicon Valley + NorCal are 100% interchangeable if you are comfortable swapping Patagonia vests and cowboy cosplay. Stephenville is the "Cowboy Capital of the World". Plus Stephenville has about a third of the population of Palo Alto. That is a big move in hopes that we can raise enough money. Fingers crossed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitleIX is ripe for reform Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Even if Tarleton State doesn't go the NCAA route, a club coach could conceivably earn a respectable living while making a favorable difference in a substantially underserved region for the sport (s)he loves. Liberty University's former wrestler (and now coach) Jesse Castro remains at the helm of the Flames' post-elimination club program: https://ncwa.net/teams/lib He was in charge when they were still NCAA D1, too. I am not aware that he's a volunteer. And they have a women's program now, too, suggesting more team growth's on the horizon. Texas is within driving distance of his native Missouri, but as for Palo Alto: not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show_Me Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 On 10/11/2023 at 9:37 PM, TitleIX is ripe for reform said: Texas is within driving distance of his native Missouri, but as for Palo Alto: not so much. Not sure I would categorize a 650-700 mile trip from Stephenville TX to either Kearney or Columbia (MO) as being “within driving distance”. Lol. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHROMEBIRD Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 On 10/9/2023 at 8:05 PM, billyhoyle said: Turning "Tarleton State," which few people outside of Texas have ever heard of, into a successful program is a completely different challenge. Why is Tarleton State the place where there is now support to start a program...Is there any chance at Texas A&M, Rice, Texas Tech, UT Austin, Baylor, etc? Or is the plan that once Tarleton state has a program, it could motivate some of the more marquee Texas universities? Hard to imagine A&M adding sports, even with next year's ESPN money, now that they have to deal with Jimbo Fisher's insane buyout. Where are the wrestling hotspots in Texas? Maybe UTEP or UTSA? I thought both regions had a pretty good wrestling culture at the prep level. Strong for Texas, that is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRef Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 8 hours ago, CHROMEBIRD said: Hard to imagine A&M adding sports, even with next year's ESPN money, now that they have to deal with Jimbo Fisher's insane buyout. Where are the wrestling hotspots in Texas? Maybe UTEP or UTSA? I thought both regions had a pretty good wrestling culture at the prep level. Strong for Texas, that is. In Texas, the programs are only in the metropolitan areas. Unless there has been a new HS program added, the nearest HS program to Stephenville is over an hour away. The north region of Texas has more wrestling than the central region, so UTSA would a hard sell. UTEP would have a bunch of talent to pick from, but the traveling would be horrible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, TexRef said: In Texas, the programs are only in the metropolitan areas. Unless there has been a new HS program added, the nearest HS program to Stephenville is over an hour away. The north region of Texas has more wrestling than the central region, so UTSA would a hard sell. UTEP would have a bunch of talent to pick from, but the traveling would be horrible. Well Bo Nickal said he moved to Allen because their wrestling team was good, so what about Baylor or North Texas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SetonHallPirate Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 hour ago, TexRef said: In Texas, the programs are only in the metropolitan areas. Unless there has been a new HS program added, the nearest HS program to Stephenville is over an hour away. The north region of Texas has more wrestling than the central region, so UTSA would a hard sell. UTEP would have a bunch of talent to pick from, but the traveling would be horrible. UTEP is actually only a six-hour drive from Arizona State, believe it or not. (Heck, UTEP is closer to Arizona State than Tarleton State) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRef Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 10 hours ago, 1032004 said: Well Bo Nickal said he moved to Allen because their wrestling team was good, so what about Baylor or North Texas? Neither of those schools are interested in having a wrestling program. The University of North Texas (UNT) had a club team that was run by Andre Metzger and he finally got tired of hearing them say "No thanks" that he left. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudge Tunnel Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, TexRef said: Neither of those schools are interested in having a wrestling program. The University of North Texas (UNT) had a club team that was run by Andre Metzger and he finally got tired of hearing them say "No thanks" that he left. UNT didn’t even have a practice facility, they had to use Liberty Christian’s room. Not to mention, Denton ISD doesn’t even have wrestling. It would be a tough sell there. However, a D1 program in DFW makes the most sense - that area has the best overall HS talent, proximity to Oklahoma and the panhandle, hopefully spark some of those mid-sized high schools to start up programs, etc Edited November 14, 2023 by Fudge Tunnel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRef Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Fudge Tunnel said: UNT didn’t even have a practice facility, they had to use Liberty Christian’s room. Not to mention, Denton ISD doesn’t even have wrestling. It would be a tough sell there. However, a D1 program in DFW makes the most sense - that area has the best overall HS talent, proximity to Oklahoma and the panhandle, hopefully spark some of those mid-sized high schools to start up programs, etc They had a gym on campus for a while, and then they were at Lewisville HS. I didn't know they were at LC. Denton ISD's superintendent has said they will never have wrestling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SetonHallPirate Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 15 hours ago, TexRef said: They had a gym on campus for a while, and then they were at Lewisville HS. I didn't know they were at LC. Denton ISD's superintendent has said they will never have wrestling. Because...puppy defense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) 17 hours ago, Fudge Tunnel said: UNT didn’t even have a practice facility, they had to use Liberty Christian’s room. Not to mention, Denton ISD doesn’t even have wrestling. It would be a tough sell there. However, a D1 program in DFW makes the most sense - that area has the best overall HS talent, proximity to Oklahoma and the panhandle, hopefully spark some of those mid-sized high schools to start up programs, etc Are there any other D1 schools in the DFW area that I’m not thinking of? Edited November 14, 2023 by 1032004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SetonHallPirate Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 10 minutes ago, 1032004 said: Are there any other D1 schools in the DFW area that I’m not thinking of? Full list of D-1 schools in the metroplex (don't have the time to look through the whole thread): Southern Methodist, Texas Christian, Texas-Arlington, North Texas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnwtwg Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 59 minutes ago, SetonHallPirate said: Full list of D-1 schools in the metroplex (don't have the time to look through the whole thread): Southern Methodist, Texas Christian, Texas-Arlington, North Texas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_colleges_and_universities_in_the_Dallas–Fort_Worth_metroplex This wiki includes all levels of athletic participation (if applicable) i am an idiot on the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SetonHallPirate Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 24 minutes ago, bnwtwg said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_colleges_and_universities_in_the_Dallas–Fort_Worth_metroplex This wiki includes all levels of athletic participation (if applicable) Texas A&M-Commerce is REALLY stretching the definition of metroplex there…might as well include Baylor and Tarleton State if you want to include TAMU-Commerce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudge Tunnel Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 18 hours ago, TexRef said: They had a gym on campus for a while, and then they were at Lewisville HS. I didn't know they were at LC. Denton ISD's superintendent has said they will never have wrestling. Metzger would use any room that would allow him in. I’m surprised he’s not holding a sign on the side of the road that reads “will wrestle for food”. That is one of the reasons we left the Denton ISD (Lantana) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestle87 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 On 10/9/2023 at 10:38 PM, SetonHallPirate said: If Dallas Baptist were to start a wrestling program, unless they moved their entire athletic department to Division I, DBU would be a Division II program. It can be done. Hopkins has D1 lacrosse, all the other sports are D3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Bryant Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 It can be done. Hopkins has D1 lacrosse, all the other sports are D3.Those teams are all grandfathered in. You can’t just “do it” these days. The handful of D3s who play D1 hockey (there is no D2 hockey). There’s the lax schools and of course, F&M in wrestling. 1 Insert catchy tagline here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRef Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 19 hours ago, 1032004 said: Are there any other D1 schools in the DFW area that I’m not thinking of? I believe your list is correct. Dallas Baptist is D2 and that would a nice addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRef Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 On 10/10/2023 at 1:30 PM, Tom formerly Tofurky said: I do not know that, but I have to imagine that the lure of becoming a head coach of a(n eventual) D1 program is appealing to a young coach. That is true. I hope his wife likes small towns lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 Apparently Tarleton State needs to raise $2 million? Hopefully Leeth took some notes on Koll’s fundraising skills… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRef Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 Koll use to do the phone a thon and make good money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olehickry Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 On 10/10/2023 at 2:02 PM, TitleIX is ripe for reform said: Meanwhile it has to be appealing having the opportunity to help bring D1 college wrestling back to life in the region. Neighboring Louisiana apparently lacks D1 wrestling just like Texas, and nearby Mississippi barely even has high school wrestling (and has no D1 wrestling). Furthermore, to the west, I'm not aware that neighboring New Mexico has D1 college wrestling, either. Tarleton State is rather centrally located for that underserved land mass. It can inspire the growth of our sport at various levels. Coach Leeth is from Missouri, by the way, but reportedly he almost wrestled at Duke instead of Mizzou. Injuries and bad luck repeatedly set him back. May he flourish at Tarleton State. Incidentally Schreiner U. (in Kerrville, Texas) started off as an NCWA club program (for men & women) about a decade ago and then successfully transitioned to D3. Late to this party, but this is 100% correct... Here in Louisiana, we've had high school wrestling since 1945, but we don't have a single college wrestling program (Title IX ended LSU's team in 1985, which Kevin Jackson was a member of). Football is King and Baseball is a close 2nd. All attempts to start a program from the JUCO level to NAIA to D3 and D1 have all been shrugged off...Even with assistance from the NCWA Don't even get me started on Mississippi...last I remember, other than Ocean Springs they had maybe just shy of a handful of high school programs... Essentially, you're just not going to create a new program in the South without a TON of self-funding, support and backing, like Greg Hatcher was luckily able to provide in Arkansas... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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