Husker_Du Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 if 'moving' is ethnic cleansing i guess 1) i'm in favor of ethnic cleansing. those two on that piece of land is going to be a war forever 2) jews have been threatened w/ ethnic cleansing forever. TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, Plasmodium said: Not Israel, Willie. Willie is expositing his theory of racial genocide by demanding all Palestinians be annihilated? mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, mspart said: Willie is expositing his theory of racial genocide by demanding all Palestinians be annihilated? mspart No, he is advocating ethnic cleansing. Edited October 30, 2023 by Plasmodium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, Husker_Du said: if 'moving' is ethnic cleansing i guess 1) i'm in favor of ethnic cleansing. those two on that piece of land is going to be a war forever 2) jews have been threatened w/ ethnic cleansing forever. Yes, they are behaving very similarly to the Europeans who committed awful acts towards them the last thousand years. Especially, in the West Bank illegal settlements. The settlers there are radical, genocidal lunatics. Just today another Palestinian village packed up and left under threat from a settler militia. That's ethnic cleansing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Plasmodium said: No, he is advocating ethnic cleansing. They don't know what that means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Just now, uncle bernard said: They don't know what that means. Added a link to the dictionary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Plasmodium said: Added a link to the dictionary Good luck. I tried the same thing earlier and it changed nothing for the guy haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husker_Du Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 i guess what i'm saying is simply this: there isn't going to be any semblance of peace or stability there until 1 of the 2 wins or removes themselves. they can't coexist in that region. that's something we can all agree on, correct? 3 TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 15 minutes ago, Husker_Du said: i guess what i'm saying is simply this: there isn't going to be any semblance of peace or stability there until 1 of the 2 wins or removes themselves. they can't coexist in that region. that's something we can all agree on, correct? Well, they have been there for thousands of years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 35 minutes ago, Plasmodium said: No, he is advocating ethnic cleansing. Oh, I was saying with from the river to the sea, Hama's advocation of ethnic annihilation, which you and UB appear to be ok with. Moving palestinians is a far worse crime in your minds. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, Plasmodium said: Well, they have been there for thousands of years. The Jews have been there for thousands of years, the nomadic Arabs were more from Sinai, with some from Jordan and Syria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 24 minutes ago, Offthemat said: The Jews have been there for thousands of years, the nomadic Arabs were more from Sinai, with some from Jordan and Syria. There are Palestinians who could literally show you the house they got kicked out of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 hour ago, mspart said: Oh, I was saying with from the river to the sea, Hama's advocation of ethnic annihilation, which you and UB appear to be ok with. Moving palestinians is a far worse crime in your minds. mspart Nobody said that and I am not OK with that. That is reprehensible, for Jews or Arabs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Offthemat said: The Jews have been there for thousands of years, the nomadic Arabs were more from Sinai, with some from Jordan and Syria. Yes, the nomadic Arabs were. You are probably referencing Bedouins. That doesn't say anything about Palestinians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 22 minutes ago, Plasmodium said: Yes, the nomadic Arabs were. You are probably referencing Bedouins. That doesn't say anything about Palestinians. And Jews/Israelites/Hebrews were in Israel a couple thousand years before there were Muslims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, Offthemat said: And Jews/Israelites/Hebrews were in Israel a couple thousand years before there were Muslims. True, Islam didn't exist until the 6th century. Doesn't mean the ancestors of the Palestinians weren't there. Some of them were and remain Christians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Plasmodium said: True, Islam didn't exist until the 6th century. Doesn't mean the ancestors of the Palestinians weren't there. Some of them were and remain Christians. next you’re gonna tell me jesus wasn’t white??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Just now, uncle bernard said: next you’re gonna tell me jesus wasn’t white??? ? 6'3" 195lbs. Blue eyes. Auburn hair. We all know this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offthemat Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2023/10/shani-louk-rip.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatWhiteNorth Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 9 hours ago, Plasmodium said: What you describe is definitively ethnic cleansing. Nope. Not definitely, and not even at all. That's your imagination (and a bad call.) Quote i didn't say i want innocent Palestinians to be wiped off the face of the earth. i said them moving is the only way i see stability. If Willie had said he wanted to have them forcibly removed, then it would be ethnic cleansing. He's merely speculating on the result of Palestinians choosing to move to the West Bank. As to how the move occurs, he hasn't posted a single thing. That's left up to your imagination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatWhiteNorth Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 8 hours ago, Plasmodium said: Yep, it cuts both ways. Except it doesn't. Only one of the two believes in a two-state solution, which allows them to live in harmony. That's Israel. Only one of the two believes the other must be eradicated, and no other options exist. That's Hamas. It does NOT cut both ways. You're letting your emotions overpower your ability to reason. You're usually a solid poster, but your reasoning here is weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatWhiteNorth Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 8 hours ago, uncle bernard said: Yes, they are behaving very similarly to the Europeans who committed awful acts towards them the last thousand years. Especially, in the West Bank illegal settlements. The settlers there are radical, genocidal lunatics. Just today another Palestinian village packed up and left under threat from a settler militia. That's ethnic cleansing. Now the scope has increased to include countries that have been awful to each other in the last thousand years. If you are serious, this may be both interesting and educational. What is happening in Gaza right now will only a blip on that timeline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatWhiteNorth Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 8 hours ago, Plasmodium said: Well, they have been there for thousands of years. Native Americans lived in what is now the US for thousands of years, too. Many examples of this. And also, many examples of land changing hands multiple times in decades time. What has happened in recently in Gaza/Palestine isn't new to the world - it's a repeat of what's happened many times in history in many locations. The idea that what is happening there is unique is part of the problem, not part of the solution. That was a weak post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 16 hours ago, uncle bernard said: There are Palestinians who could literally show you the house they got kicked out of It goes back about 4000 years ago to the house of Abraham. The Palestinians come out of the line of Ishmael. The Jews come out of the line of Isaac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 9 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said: Native Americans lived in what is now the US for thousands of years, too. Many examples of this. And also, many examples of land changing hands multiple times in decades time. What has happened in recently in Gaza/Palestine isn't new to the world - it's a repeat of what's happened many times in history in many locations. The idea that what is happening there is unique is part of the problem, not part of the solution. That was a weak post. Nothing is unique about ethnic cleansing and stealing land. The difference here is we point the finger at the past but justify it when it unfolds right before our eyes. It won't bring peace. This has already happened many times in the Holy Land. The crusades, for example. The Palestinians will always claim their share, because it is indeed theirs. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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