HS Team State Championship Formats

[davenowa]

Just wondering if there are any states that determine team state champs with some type of hybrid, combining results from a dual meet tourney with ordinal placement in an individually bracketed tournament?  I know that many conferences within various states utilize something similar to determine conference champs, but I am unaware of any states that utilize a hybrid model for state title purposes.  While some states may offer state team champ designations for both a dual tourney AND the team scores from an individually bracketed event, some states can't, as they do not permit crowning multiple team "state champions" in the same sport.  I was considering using "low score wins", with ordinal placement of the individually bracketed tourney being combined with the ordinal place from dual championship (counting places 1-4 as 1-2-3-4 and assigning all others a "5" such that a team could still contend for a state team championship even if they did not place top 4 in dual scenario...although would be tough).

Not sure how to handle ties, especially in the 1-2-3, 3-2-1 scenario where team A wins duals and places 3rd at trny, team B wins trny but was 3rd at duals and team C is 2nd at both.

My goal is to hopefully increase the importance of dual meets, for the multitude of reasons that have been discussed in the past. Thanks.

[SetonHallPirate]

11 hours ago, davenowa said:

Just wondering if there are any states that determine team state champs with some type of hybrid, combining results from a dual meet tourney with ordinal placement in an individually bracketed tournament?  I know that many conferences within various states utilize something similar to determine conference champs, but I am unaware of any states that utilize a hybrid model for state title purposes.  While some states may offer state team champ designations for both a dual tourney AND the team scores from an individually bracketed event, some states can't, as they do not permit crowning multiple team "state champions" in the same sport.  I was considering using "low score wins", with ordinal placement of the individually bracketed tourney being combined with the ordinal place from dual championship (counting places 1-4 as 1-2-3-4 and assigning all others a "5" such that a team could still contend for a state team championship even if they did not place top 4 in dual scenario...although would be tough).

Not sure how to handle ties, especially in the 1-2-3, 3-2-1 scenario where team A wins duals and places 3rd at trny, team B wins trny but was 3rd at duals and team C is 2nd at both.

My goal is to hopefully increase the importance of dual meets, for the multitude of reasons that have been discussed in the past. Thanks.

Well, Wisconsin (to use one example) has their teams compete in a tournament for regionals, where the winners of each regional advance to sectionals and (eventually) state, which is wrestled in a dual format.

[TNwrestling]

15 hours ago, SetonHallPirate said:

Well, Wisconsin (to use one example) has their teams compete in a tournament for regionals, where the winners of each regional advance to sectionals and (eventually) state, which is wrestled in a dual format.

Tennessee uses this format as well. 

[Formally140]

Illinois isn’t as smart as TN or GA and doesn’t keep team points at state. Only duals. It’s annoying

[nick]

Indiana does a duals tournament put on by the coaches association, it's classed (1A-4A) and there is a qualification formula along with bid in spots. In addition, the state keeps track during the state finals (no class) of team score and awards a team champion from that