Twitter is better

[Wrestleknownothing]

25 minutes ago, Caveira said:

The Ds sure do enjoy censoring views they don’t like.   

Huh?

[Saylors_Tiny_Willie]

10 hours ago, Caveira said:

The Ds sure do enjoy censoring views they don’t like.   

lol

https://intermatwrestle.com/forums/topic/5316-would-removing-saylors-tiny-willie-from-the-forum-be-a-good-thing-what-say-you/#comment-186094

[jross]

On 10/18/2024 at 5:11 PM, Scouts Honor said:

why exactly? 

b/c he disagrees with you? 

Because Wylis believes in censoring any speech besides "Hodor."

[jross]

11 hours ago, Saylors_Tiny_Willie said:

lol

https://intermatwrestle.com/forums/topic/5316-would-removing-saylors-tiny-willie-from-the-forum-be-a-good-thing-what-say-you/#comment-186094

They don't want to censor your speech, they want to ban you for being a bad poster. 

[jross]

On 10/18/2024 at 3:19 PM, Saylors_Tiny_Willie said:

The EU needs to take him apart.

Disgusting.  You can’t fight what you can’t discuss.

[jross]

On 10/18/2024 at 3:26 PM, Wrestleknownothing said:

1. Piercing the corporate veil is a thing,

2. Especially when Musk does it so often himself.

The EU was not likely to do this if Musk had not set the precedence himself by, among other things, taking NVDA chips from Tesla and redirecting them to xAI, using Tesla engineers at Twitter, telling Tesla's board that unless they paid him more (i.e. replace the shares he sold to buy Twitter) he would start new projects at other companies (like he did with xAI), borrowing money from one company (SpaceX) to buy another company (Twitter), using cash from one business (SpaceX) to directly finance another business (SolarCity) by buying its equity, merging one failing company (SolarCity) into another (Tesla) to bail it out, and that is just from memory, I am probably missing some.

If the EU goes forward it will only be to follow Musk's footsteps.

The EU's potential penalties should not extend to all of Musk's businesses simply because of his management style. The core issue is about free speech, not the way Musk operates his companies.  It is not appropriate for a government to penalize multiple companies for free speech on one platform.

[Wrestleknownothing]

3 hours ago, jross said:

The EU's potential penalties should not extend to all of Musk's businesses simply because of his management style. The core issue is about free speech, not the way Musk operates his companies.  It is not appropriate for a government to penalize multiple companies for free speech on one platform.

It isn't an issue of management style. It is a legal construct that Musk ignores, so I do not know why you would expect regulators to honor it either.

[jross]

22 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

It isn't an issue of management style. It is a legal construct that Musk ignores, so I do not know why you would expect regulators to honor it either.

Have you had a chance to listen to the JD Vance interview?  

• Martha Raddatz suggests that the (Colorado) gang incidents were limited to "a handful of apartment complexes" and that the situation was being managed by local law enforcement.  Vance retorted, "Martha (Raddatz), do you hear yourself? Only a handful of apartment complexes in America were taken over by Venezuelan gangs."

WKN, do you hear yourself?

You are talking about Musk and glossing over the EU overreach?  

[mspart]

WKN is welcoming censorship from EU on American soil.   What happens when they go after someone he supports?

mspart

[mspart]

The original issue here is whether X is better than Twitter.   This question is regardless of profitability.   Is it a better system for users or worse.  I have no idea as I don't use X.   But it appears there is not as much censorship on X from what I have heard.  

mspart

[Saylors_Tiny_Willie]

30 minutes ago, mspart said:

The original issue here is whether X is better than Twitter.   This question is regardless of profitability.   Is it a better system for users or worse.  I have no idea as I don't use X.   But it appears there is not as much censorship on X from what I have heard.  

mspart

If you mean 'welcoming actual neo-nazis back to X' as 'less censorship' then you might be right.

[Scouts Honor]

actual neo nazis?

did your account get re instated wee? 

[Wrestleknownothing]

3 hours ago, jross said:

Have you had a chance to listen to the JD Vance interview?  

• Martha Raddatz suggests that the (Colorado) gang incidents were limited to "a handful of apartment complexes" and that the situation was being managed by local law enforcement.  Vance retorted, "Martha (Raddatz), do you hear yourself? Only a handful of apartment complexes in America were taken over by Venezuelan gangs."

WKN, do you hear yourself?

You are talking about Musk and glossing over the EU overreach?  

What a weird way to get to "do you hear yourself".

I do hear myself, but I fear you do not understand what I said. You can describe the EU approach as overreach, but it is predicated on, and only available because of, Musk first overreaching. Musk opened the door by ignoring that the corporations are separate legal entities, and now the EU is walking through it and proposing doing the same.

That is not, as @mspart so wrongly claims, a statement about censorship. It is a statement that actions have consequences. It is Musk's own actions that have put him in this possible jeopardy. 

I find the question of whether the EU should, or should not, impose a fine very uninteresting, but you are both fixated on that. I find the issue of whether Musk's actions will have consequences endlessly fascinating. Often they do not. But at least in the case of buying Twitter, they did.

[jross]

Why is there concern with Musk?  Why do you care?  

There is not a strong case of piercing the veil is there?  It seems on the surface of hate the man, find the crime.

[headshuck]

Was it WKN or Mike Parrish that said they had interviewed at one of Musk’s companies?

[Caveira]

21 minutes ago, jross said:

Why is there concern with Musk?  Why do you care?  

There is not a strong case of piercing the veil is there?  It seems on the surface of hate the man, find the crime.

Why?    Because The left loves censorship.  Why did it take me 2 secs to find on tik tok and after 3 mins of searching can’t find on YouTube.    Musk is a free speech (ex liberal) absolutist.  
 

she’s calling for more censorship of x in this vid.   (I’m not on x ) I bet someone can find easily the same vid.  

before you answer….. what censorship rule is she citing?   How can she ask for oversight for people to speak to people?   She cites ….. your speaking to millions of people without oversight?    51 security agents were allowed to speak / lie to 330 million people with their oversight.    

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTFCX3123/

Edited October 22 by Caveira

[Caveira]

Aoc asked why are young white males not voting blue “enough”…..     answer.    Right wing radicalization on tik tok …. more censorship    

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTFC42SBa/

[Caveira]

2019 Kamala calls for censorship on social media 

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTFC4FpwF/

[Caveira]

More Kamala calling for censorship of social media 

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTFC4Gv2w/

 

before you say…. I’m posting a lot of crap.  That’s the issue here.   Not that it’s crap.  It’s that I can find video of the left saying what they believe in easier on tik tok than I can on Facebook and YouTube.    Look at the timestamps on these.   They were found rapid fire.   Very few mins : secs between each vid I posted.  
 

my Facebook algo returns I would say 80% food.  10% trash.   But no politics.   

Edited October 22 by Caveira

[Caveira]

These vids are crazy.  I know y’all won’t watch tho 

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTFC4vHgd/

[Wrestleknownothing]

1 hour ago, jross said:

Why is there concern with Musk?  Why do you care?  

There is not a strong case of piercing the veil is there?  It seems on the surface of hate the man, find the crime.

Because Musk is fascinating.

Yes, there is a strong case of piercing the veil. I gave multiple example in a prior post.

[Wrestleknownothing]

1 hour ago, headshuck said:

Was it WKN or Mike Parrish that said they had interviewed at one of Musk’s companies?

I do not know if it was Mike Parrish, but it definitely was not me. I am not qualified to work for any of Musk's companies.

[Wrestleknownothing]

1 hour ago, Caveira said:

Musk is a free speech (ex liberal) absolutist.  
 

Funniest thing you have said in a long time.

[Scouts Honor]

10 hours ago, jross said:

 It seems on the surface of hate the man, find the crime.

this is the way of the leftist

[jross]

15 hours ago, headshuck said:

Was it WKN or Mike Parrish that said they had interviewed at one of Musk’s companies?

Parrish.