1032004 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Now I guess in theory that could have more occurred while Cassar was part of NLWC and not PSU, but seems odd for a coach at a state school. Good interview overall though. This quote is around 29:30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 6 minutes ago, 1032004 said: Now I guess in theory that could have more occurred while Cassar was part of NLWC and not PSU, but seems odd for a coach at a state school. Good interview overall though. This quote is around 29:30. Or it could just be that Cael creates an environment that prioritizes spiritual/mental health and not being overly obsessed with the results. Perhaps he shows the athletes, with his own actions and faith, that wrestling is something they do - not who they are. It probably is very freeing for the athletes to compete and not have their whole identity teetering on whether they win or lose. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 One thing I recall Carl doing is an individual one hour meeting every spring with each wrestler. The only topic off limits is wrestling. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 56 minutes ago, 1032004 said: but seems odd for a coach at a state school. Penn State is not a state school and I might not be religious myself but I don't see any harm in what Cael is doing in terms of connecting with his wrestlers through "faith" even if it seems foreign to me 2 I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ugarles Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 15 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: Penn State is not a state school i can't tell if i took the bait here. goddamit. i really have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Plenty of non-religious kids have come through PSU’s team as well. Cael helps people understand that they are more than “just” wrestlers and their identity and value is not tied to their results on the mat. Win or lose, it’s not the end of the world. Like @Gus says, that’s freeing to many of them. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 hour ago, ugarles said: i can't tell if i took the bait here. goddamit. i really have no idea. Lol. Not at all. Penn State is a "state related" school but not a state school. I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted August 29, 2023 Author Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 hour ago, PortaJohn said: Penn State is not a state school and I might not be religious myself but I don't see any harm in what Cael is doing in terms of connecting with his wrestlers through "faith" even if it seems foreign to me State-related? Does that impact their requirement to abide by separation of Church and state? Although I suppose Cael may also be in the clear anyway if he only talks about “faith” and not Jesus or any specific religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 hour ago, PortaJohn said: Penn State is not a state school But ... We Are Penn State! Are you saying they've been lying to us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 28 minutes ago, 1032004 said: State-related? Does that impact their requirement to abide by separation of Church and state? Although I suppose Cael may also be in the clear anyway if he only talks about “faith” and not Jesus or any specific religion. Would you like to define & reference that requirement or should we just ignore and let this thread stay on track? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted August 29, 2023 Author Share Posted August 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, ionel said: Would you like to define & reference that requirement or should we just ignore and let this thread stay on track? “US courts have ruled that schools are an ‘arm of the state’ and thus can do nothing to hinder or promote religion” https://news.cornellcollege.edu/2019/11/ask-expert-separation-church-state-mean-americas-public-schools-report/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 (edited) 38 minutes ago, 1032004 said: State-related? Does that impact their requirement to abide by separation of Church and state? Although I suppose Cael may also be in the clear anyway if he only talks about “faith” and not Jesus or any specific religion. Cael is allowed to talk about Jesus & Joesph Smith. It's protected under his constitutional right. He's not allowed discriminate wrestlers who are not religious or to force religious practice i.e prayer, going to church, drink the blood of christ Edited August 29, 2023 by PortaJohn 3 I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted August 29, 2023 Author Share Posted August 29, 2023 9 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: Cael is allowed to talk about Jesus & Joesph Smith. It's protected under his constitutional right. He's not allowed discriminate wrestlers who are not religious or to force religious practice i.e prayer, going to church, drink the blood of christ He can even “promote” Jesus and/or Joseph Smith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 minute ago, 1032004 said: He can even “promote” Jesus and/or Joseph Smith? If Nolf hadn't been there he mightve recruited Joe Smith. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 minute ago, 1032004 said: He can even “promote” Jesus and/or Joseph Smith? @VakAttack is our resident lawyer so he would probably know better but from my understanding no he cannot promote Jesus or Joseph Smith 1 2 I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Vak is now a Constutional lawyer? Some day we may be able to say we rubbed shoulders (er electrons) with a Surpreme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 6 minutes ago, ionel said: Vak is now a Constutional lawyer? Some day we may be able to say we rubbed shoulders (er electrons) with a Surpreme. I never said Constitutional Lawyer. I said Resident Lawyer as in he is our Resident Intermat Forum Lawyer. It's pro bono work but it's fulfilling I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 minute ago, PortaJohn said: I never said Constitutional Lawyer. I said Resident Lawyer as in he is our Resident Intermat Forum Lawyer. It's pro bono work but it's fulfilling yeah but still ... there's a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted August 30, 2023 Author Share Posted August 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, ionel said: yeah but still ... there's a chance Think he’s got a better shot than FloKaren? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, ionel said: yeah but still ... there's a chance Through discovery I've collected Vak v. Social Sec. Admin, 753 F.2d 1076 (7th Cir. 1984) Peterson v. Vak 70 N.W.2d 436 (1955) 160 Neb. 450 Estate of Vak v. Commissioner, 973 F.2d 1409 Vak v. Net Matrix Solutions, Inc., 01–13–00385–CV. - Case Law & I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunaticfringe Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Name some non bible thumpers at PSU? I can’t think of any who didn’t thank god 5x per interview. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 16 minutes ago, Lunaticfringe said: Name some non bible thumpers at PSU? I can’t think of any who didn’t thank god 5x per interview. Gary Steen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted August 30, 2023 Author Share Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Lunaticfringe said: Name some non bible thumpers at PSU? I can’t think of any who didn’t thank god 5x per interview. Starocci IIRC. Unless thinking he’s God counts (which I know may be a bit of an act for social media) Edited August 30, 2023 by 1032004 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Starocci IIRC. Unless thinking he’s God counts (which I know may be a bit of an act for social media)And SVN, and Bartlett, and DT, and Ruth, and Cenzo, and Nolf…Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Le duke said: And SVN, and Bartlett, and DT, and Ruth, and Cenzo, and Nolf… Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Nolf talks about his faith a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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