This isn't good for Biden

[Plasmodium]

  On 9/14/2023 at 7:09 PM, mspart said:

That's not the question.   The question is how will the 48 D senators vote?   How I would vote in immaterial, it's how they will vote.   I maintain they will vote to acquit unless, and only unless, incontrovertible evidence is presented and it has to be so hard that the public will be up in arms over it.    I just don't see that happening. 

mspart

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There is zero chance of conviction, regardless of evidence.  He could shoot someone on fifth avenue in broad daylight and not lose support of D senators.

[ionel]

  On 9/14/2023 at 7:53 PM, Plasmodium said:

There is zero chance of conviction, regardless of evidence.  He could shoot someone on fifth avenue in broad daylight and not lose support of D senators.

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Fifth avenue is under water, doubt he could do that. 

[Plasmodium]

  On 9/14/2023 at 8:07 PM, ionel said:

Fifth avenue is under water, doubt he could do that. 

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Not in Biden's lifetime!!

[Offthemat]

  On 9/14/2023 at 7:09 PM, mspart said:

That's not the question.   The question is how will the 48 D senators vote?   How I would vote in immaterial, it's how they will vote.   I maintain they will vote to acquit unless, and only unless, incontrovertible evidence is presented and it has to be so hard that the public will be up in arms over it.    I just don't see that happening. 

mspart

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I don’t think you can expect a senator to vote to convict if you wouldn’t.  And to clear up the other question;  if he was previously bribed, he is currently compromised.  

[Offthemat]

  On 9/14/2023 at 6:55 PM, ionel said:

C'mon Man, those aren't cages, its a fresh air ventilated tiny home condo with a wrap around picture window.  The same thing Obama used, only Trump used cages.  

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Condos?  Open air containment condos.  Yeah, that’s much better than cages.  

[ionel]

  On 9/14/2023 at 9:22 PM, Offthemat said:

I don’t think you can expect a senator to vote to convict if you wouldn’t.  And to clear up the other question;  if he was previously bribed, he is currently compromised.  

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Well we can't get Senator Dole to vote to impeach Ban ... so yeah not gonna happen.  

[Ban Basketball]

  On 9/14/2023 at 11:07 PM, ionel said:

Well we can't get Senator Dole to vote to impeach Ban ... so yeah not gonna happen.  

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Give it up,  man.  Just flat out weird at this point. 

[Offthemat]

  On 9/14/2023 at 11:07 PM, ionel said:

Well we can't get Senator Dole to vote to impeach Ban ... so yeah not gonna happen.  

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Bob is working for Husker’s vote, and Husker… well, have you ever watched a cat play with a severely injured mouse?

[ionel]

  On 9/14/2023 at 11:18 PM, Offthemat said:

Bob is working for Husker’s vote, and Husker… well, have you ever watched a cat play with a severely injured mouse?

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Yes I have ... I du know what you mean.  

[mspart]

  On 9/14/2023 at 9:22 PM, Offthemat said:

I don’t think you can expect a senator to vote to convict if you wouldn’t.  And to clear up the other question;  if he was previously bribed, he is currently compromised.  

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I don't think you can expect any D senator to vote to convict period.   You might have a few R's not do it either.   You need 67 senators to convict.   I don't think it can happen unless there is incontrovertible evidence and the public is behind it.   Senators would have to feel the heat and I just don't see that with the way the media is turning everything upside down in support of Biden. 

mspart

[Offthemat]

I do expect dimocrat senators to vote to convict.  They know as well as I do what the evidence shows.  That bribery is the only explanation for everything from ending the China Initiative to allowing a spy balloon to complete its mission across the entire country.  The billions sent to Ukraine with portions funneled back into dimocrat coffers.  I suspect that some would vote to keep him from running again.  Some will vote because he is a criminally despicable man.  
 

Here’s your evidence, so far:

https://clyde.house.gov/bidencrimefamily/

[GreatWhiteNorth]

Political tit-for-tat at a time when politicians shouldn't be wasting their time on this crap.

Hey politicians in Congress... quit screwing around and get back to work.

(Both parties. This isn't D vs R, it is just common sense.)

Edited September 15, 2023 by GreatWhiteNorth

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I agree everyone should stop prosecuting political rivals!

[jross]

You can impeach for high crimes and misdemeanors; in other words, for any political judgment by Congress.  It is not a criminal trial.  Nothing to see here.

[ionel]

  On 9/15/2023 at 3:35 AM, GreatWhiteNorth said:

 quit screwing around and get back to work.

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can we say they same about the UAW?

[Offthemat]

  On 9/15/2023 at 2:46 PM, ionel said:

can we say they same about the UAW?

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They seem to be after reparations for Bidenomics.  20% wage increase is less than half of what they demand?

[ionel]

  On 9/15/2023 at 4:58 PM, Offthemat said:

They seem to be after reparations for Bidenomics.  20% wage increase is less than half of what they demand?

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Who wouldn't stop working if it meant you get a 40% pay increase?  

[Offthemat]

  On 9/15/2023 at 5:22 PM, ionel said:

Who wouldn't stop working if it meant you get a 40% pay increase?  

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Bananas basketball?

[Ban Basketball]

  On 9/15/2023 at 5:25 PM, Offthemat said:

Bananas basketball?

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Ah,  yes,  yet another who obsesses about me all day,  every day.

Trust me: I'm really NOT that important to endlessly obsess about,  Adolf.

[Offthemat]

The walls are closing in. 
 

Fact-checkers revise narrative on Biden’s role in firing Ukraine prosecutor as new evidence emerges

Washington Post now cites State Department documents recently made public by Just the News, concedes Biden may have called "audible" in threatening to withhold loan guarantee to force firing of Viktor Shokin.

 

https://justthenews.com/accountability/washington-post-corrects-record-bidens-demands-fire-shokin

[Ban Basketball]

  On 9/17/2023 at 4:30 PM, Offthemat said:

The walls are closing in. 
 

Fact-checkers revise narrative on Biden’s role in firing Ukraine prosecutor as new evidence emerges

Washington Post now cites State Department documents recently made public by Just the News, concedes Biden may have called "audible" in threatening to withhold loan guarantee to force firing of Viktor Shokin.

 

https://justthenews.com/accountability/washington-post-corrects-record-bidens-demands-fire-shokin

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Yet another big goose egg.

[Plasmodium]

  On 9/17/2023 at 4:46 PM, Ban Basketball said:

Yet another big goose egg.

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There is nothing coming out of that but a dimestore smear campaign.

[Ban Basketball]

  On 9/17/2023 at 5:35 PM, Plasmodium said:

There is nothing coming out of that but a dimestore smear campaign.

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I've watched the same people lead people down dead end roads for almost thirty years now.  What amazes me is how they willingly continue to get led to these dead ends and never throw in the towel. 

I'd have jumped ship years ago after that many embarrassments. 

[Plasmodium]

  On 9/17/2023 at 5:48 PM, Ban Basketball said:

I've watched the same people lead people down dead end roads for almost thirty years now.  What amazes me is how they willingly continue to get led to these dead ends and never throw in the towel. 

I'd have jumped ship years ago after that many embarrassments. 

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It is not the destination, it is the journey!

[Bigbrog]

  On 9/17/2023 at 5:48 PM, Ban Basketball said:

I've watched the same people lead people down dead end roads for almost thirty years now.  What amazes me is how they willingly continue to get led to these dead ends and never throw in the towel. 

I'd have jumped ship years ago after that many embarrassments. 

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Seriously...you do realize how delusional you sound when you accuse people of things when YOU are the one that does them?!?!