Mr. PeanutButter Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Coach Brands stated during this week's pre-meet presser that Real Woods was "day to day" due to an unspecified injury. Now, just this morning the FRL bronies reported that Woods is out of the All Star. Maybe it's just a minor injury and Woods will be in the lineup in a couple weeks but doesn't it seem like Iowa wrestlers have a higher tendency to be injured than other teams? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Mr. PeanutButter said: Coach Brands stated during this week's pre-meet presser that Real Woods was "day to day" due to an unspecified injury. Now, just this morning the FRL bronies reported that Woods is out of the All Star. Maybe it's just a minor injury and Woods will be in the lineup in a couple weeks but doesn't it seem like Iowa wrestlers have a higher tendency to be injured than other teams? Higher chance of shot in the foot, on mat injuries- about avg. BTW: no one who is even a little "dinged up" is going to wrestle the All Star, its just not important in the bigger scheme of things. Edited November 16, 2022 by ionel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Ultimately, we are all day-today 2 3 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nailbender Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Sometimes I don't even know how I got injured! 3 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Ultimately, we are all day-today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Can relate. Granddaughter once fell asleep in my left arm while I watched the telly. Wife nearly called 911 thinking I was having a heart attack. Couldn't move it properly for three days. Kid was such a loaf of meat. A dense meatloaf. 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 19 minutes ago, nhs67 said: Can relate. Granddaughter once fell asleep in my left arm while I watched the telly. Wife nearly called 911 thinking I was having a heart attack. Couldn't move it properly for three days. Kid was such a loaf of meat. A dense meatloaf. older than @BobDole and living in England, who knew? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorenomore Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 What is the deal at Iowa? The injury rate seems off the charts. Gotta look hard at the training staff for injury prevention. Real goes what 4 years at Stanford without major issues and cannot even make it to Thanksgiving at Iowa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 42 minutes ago, Nailbender said: Sometimes I don't even know how I got injured! Sleeping 1 Sponsored by INTERMAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadzaev2 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, scorenomore said: What is the deal at Iowa? The injury rate seems off the charts. Gotta look hard at the training staff for injury prevention. Real goes what 4 years at Stanford without major issues and cannot even make it to Thanksgiving at Iowa? I hear ya!!! Too many buddy carries up Mt. Everest....lol or too many "Red Flag" days. Edited November 17, 2022 by Fadzaev2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 What is the deal at Iowa? The injury rate seems off the charts. Gotta look hard at the training staff for injury prevention. Real goes what 4 years at Stanford without major issues and cannot even make it to Thanksgiving at Iowa?Training staff? No.Head and associate head coach.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relentless133 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 hour ago, scorenomore said: What is the deal at Iowa? The injury rate seems off the charts. Gotta look hard at the training staff for injury prevention. Real goes what 4 years at Stanford without major issues and cannot even make it to Thanksgiving at Iowa? No. In 2021, he had injuries all season. He only went 6-3 that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. PeanutButter Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 10 hours ago, ionel said: Higher chance of shot in the foot, on mat injuries- about avg. BTW: no one who is even a little "dinged up" is going to wrestle the All Star, its just not important in the bigger scheme of things. Understood and agreed on the latter part. Perhaps I'm simply overreacting but it seems like going on for about 10 years now the hawks have at least 1 major injury each year. It feels like more than any other team but that's why I posed the question in the first place -because I don't know for certain. Maybe WKN can crunch the injury stats for us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 8 hours ago, Mr. PeanutButter said: Understood and agreed on the latter part. Perhaps I'm simply overreacting but it seems like going on for about 10 years now the hawks have at least 1 major injury each year. It feels like more than any other team but that's why I posed the question in the first place -because I don't know for certain. Maybe WKN can crunch the injury stats for us You may be correct but I'd say OSU has been up there maybe surpassed them last half dozen years, they had 3 starters injured last half of last season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 It does seem like Iowa has a lot, but you could look at a number of other programs and they have had their share. Perhaps not as highly publicized? For instance, Minnesota always seems to be heavily taped up at the end of the year; Penn State has had plenty, too. (Nolf, Cassar, Kerkvliet, Berge, Berge, Starocci, Howard, Howard, Rasheed, Suriano, etc.) (Maybe we don't think about the PSU injuries as much because they have been doing more winning as individuals and as a team?) Cornell as well. Maybe we are seeing more injuries due to the extra (Covid) year? Another year of D1 wear and tear is probably a lot for many of these kids. As far as the all-star meet: Is it like in years past? In the past, the matches did not count toward seeding. If that is the case, why bother pushing an injury? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDole Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 20 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Ultimately, we are all day-today Some of us are, some aren't. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 17 minutes ago, BobDole said: Some of us are, some were. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: But back in the day, Bob had help with "day to day." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98lberEating2Lunches Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 3 hours ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: In the past, the matches did not count toward seeding Tell Mark Hall that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 35 minutes ago, 98lberEating2Lunches said: Tell Mark Hall that. I'm not sure that I remember this. Can you please remind the board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98lberEating2Lunches Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: I'm not sure that I remember this. Can you please remind the board? Mark Hall loses 3-2 to Zahid Valencia in All Star match in 2017. Mark Hall, the undefeated returning 2016-17 National Champion and 2017-18 B1G Champion gets seeded 2nd at 2017-18 NCAAs. Coaches ranking, used in seeding, reported by Cael Sanderson to have considered the all star match result. Edited November 17, 2022 by 98lberEating2Lunches 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feet2back Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) When you go to Iowa your issued a bunch of sweats, shoes, headgear, singlets and 2 of these Even Terry Brands dog wears them Edited November 17, 2022 by feet2back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, feet2back said: When you go to Iowa your issued a bunch of sweats, shoes, headgear, singlets and 2 of these And many think they also issue these but no, you have to find, shoot and skin your own. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 11 minutes ago, 98lberEating2Lunches said: Mark Hall loses 3-2 to Zahid Valencia in All Star match in 2017. Mark Hall, the undefeated returning 2016-17 National Champion and 2017-18 B1G Champion gets seeded 2nd at 2017-18 NCAAs. Coaches ranking, used in seeding, reported by Cael Sanderson to have considered the all star match result. Yeah. I wouldn't be happy with that. I would probably pull future athletes from that particular competition until there was more clarity as to whether it really "counts" or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 19 minutes ago, 98lberEating2Lunches said: Mark Hall loses 3-2 to Zahid Valencia in All Star match in 2017. Mark Hall, the undefeated returning 2016-17 National Champion and 2017-18 B1G Champion gets seeded 2nd at 2017-18 NCAAs. Coaches ranking, used in seeding, reported by Cael Sanderson to have considered the all star match result. 6 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: Yeah. I wouldn't be happy with that. I would probably pull future athletes from that particular competition until there was more clarity as to whether it really "counts" or not. What place did he finish and who/what seed did he lose to? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98lberEating2Lunches Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: Yeah. I wouldn't be happy with that. I would probably pull future athletes from that particular competition until there was more clarity as to whether it really "counts" or not. I understand Cael's current position is that any participant should treat it like any other competition by assuming it will be considered by Coaches in their rankings. I don't think coaches (even Cael) are in a real strong position to pull athletes, because NIL is in play for NWCA All Star match participants (Flo has the broadcast rights). Edited November 17, 2022 by 98lberEating2Lunches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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