Who should win the Hodge? (Poll)

[peanut]

Who should win the Hodge? (Poll)

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

Yianni wins it.  Only 4 timer this year.

[headshuck]

With a loss? Parris undefeated, dominated, more pins, prior competition (Steveson)…

[D3UC157]

Spencer, but he left too early.

Edited March 19, 2023 by D3UC157

[goheels1812]

Parris. He wrecked everyone this year in a weight with some really good competition. Guy is an animal and had a hell of a year. 

[GreatWhiteNorth]

Parris has been absolutely dominating - he will win the Hodge.

(Other guys have been really good, but none as dominating as Parris.)

[nhs67]

They take into account career.

While I want Parris to win it, I expect Johnny D to win it.

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

Does Spencer get just 1 loss on the season or do his MFFs count?

[peanut]

Here are the bonus rates and RPIs of the undefeated champs:

• Glory- 42% (0.700 RPI)
• Alirez- 67% (0.690 RPI)
• AOC- 68% (0.717 RPI)
• Starocci- 65% (0.726 RPI)
• Bonaccorsi- 35% (0.729 RPI)
• Parris- 66% (0.723 RPI)

Here are the bonus rates and RPIs of the champs with losses:

• Vito- 60% (0.714 RPI)
• Yianni- 62% (0.703 RPI)
• KOT- 62% (0.713 RPI)
• Brooks- 71% (0.746 RPI)

It looks to me like AOC, Starocci, and Parris have had comparable seasons.

 

[goheels1812]

4 minutes ago, peanut said:

Here are the bonus rates and RPIs of the undefeated champs:

• Glory- 42% (0.700 RPI)
• Alirez- 67% (0.690 RPI)
• AOC- 68% (0.717 RPI)
• Starocci- 65% (0.726 RPI)
• Bonaccorsi- 35% (0.729 RPI)
• Parris- 66% (0.723 RPI)

Here are the bonus rates and RPIs of the champs with losses:

• Vito- 60% (0.714 RPI)
• Yianni- 62% (0.703 RPI)
• KOT- 62% (0.713 RPI)
• Brooks- 71% (0.746 RPI)

It looks to me like AOC, Starocci, and Parris have had comparable seasons.

 

AOC put together a very quiet buzzsaw of a season. I know he won’t win the Hodge, and that’s ok, but he decked dudes all year. His 2023 season was by far my favorite season of a UNC wrestler ever (I was too young to fully understand/enjoy what Jaworsky was doing). This season was better than his 149 title for me because he was up a weight and rebounding from a knee reconstruction. 

Edited March 19, 2023 by goheels1812

[goheels1812]

Just now, goheels1812 said:

 

Double post deleted 

Edited March 19, 2023 by goheels1812

[SocraTease]

A few of the finalists seemed to cast their vote for wrestlers named Jesus or God.

One gave a penalty point to a fellow named Mohammed (Brooks).

One voted for his balls (Starocci).

One voted against himself (Yianni, who said he has to get much better).

Several voted for their parents or the genetic lottery.

One or two gave a partial vote to their coaches.

One may have voted for his losing opponent (O'Toole).

And a celebrity with body guards in the stands voted for himself.  In fact, I think he gave himself a dozen or so votes.  And said they are still looking for the rest of the ballots.

 

 

[jmoney]

33 minutes ago, goheels1812 said:

AOC put together a very quiet buzzsaw of a season. I know he won’t win the Hodge, and that’s ok, but he decked dudes all year. His 2023 season was by far my favorite season of a UNC wrestler ever (I was too young to fully understand/enjoy what Jaworsky was doing). This season was better than his 149 title for me because he was up a weight and rebounding from a knee reconstruction. 

I gave props a month ago to AOC for earning AA in a tough weight class when he was medically broken last year. People said his accomplishment was meaningless cuz Spencer Lee won it all broken. What say you all about AOC now? Did Spencer Lee just not win it all or is an injury to blame? It seems Iowa is saying an injury is to blame but excuses are for wusses when it works in your favor, am I right ?

[scourge165]

3 minutes ago, jmoney said:

I gave props a month ago to AOC for earning AA in a tough weight class when he was medically broken last year. People said his accomplishment was meaningless cuz Spencer Lee won it all broken. What say you all about AOC now? Did Spencer Lee just not win it all or is an injury to blame? It seems Iowa is saying an injury is to blame but excuses are for wusses when it works in your favor, am I right ?

I say he should have had to wrestle an OT vs LeHigh as Humpreheys was CLEARLY out on time.

Beyond that...I don't know who the "people" are who said his accomplishment was "meaningless." Why don't you bump THAT thread and do the "I told you so," instead of the 'a lot of people are saying' schtick.

Who are the people actively not giving "props" to O'Connor? 

[Threadkilla]

You can throw out anyone with a loss.  

Dan Hodge Trophy is based on seven criteria including record, number of pins, dominance, past credentials, quality of competition, sportsmanship/citizenship and heart. 

Parris should win it.  

 

[peanut]

7 minutes ago, Threadkilla said:

You can throw out anyone with a loss.  

Dan Hodge Trophy is based on seven criteria including record, number of pins, dominance, past credentials, quality of competition, sportsmanship/citizenship and heart. 

Parris should win it.  

 

Didn't Metcalf win the Hodge with a loss?

Edited March 19, 2023 by peanut

[Threadkilla]

4 minutes ago, peanut said:

Didn't Metcalf win the Hodge with a loss?

2008 his Sophomore year he had a loss and won the hodge.  I don't remember who he lost to.  I know he lost to Caldwell and Palmer the following years.  Palmer in  B10.  I'll look it up

[bnwtwg]

This year goes to 

1) who won

2) who was undefeated

3) who had the most pins

[Threadkilla]

3 minutes ago, Threadkilla said:

2008 his Sophomore year he had a loss and won the hodge.  I don't remember who he lost to.  I know he lost to Caldwell and Palmer the following years.  Palmer in  B10.  I'll look it up

He lost to Caldwell twice.  Spladled in 2008

[Threadkilla]

5 minutes ago, bnwtwg said:

This year goes to 

1) who won

2) who was undefeated

3) who had the most pins

Going into Nationals the most dominant leaders were:

Mason Parris Michigan 285 4.64 PPM

Andrew Alirez Northern Colo. 141 4.63 PPM

[Dark Energy]

Parris will likely get it.  Deserves it.  
 

Very interesting that Steveson is even better.  Shows the level Steveson is (was) on vs heavyweights in this country.  

[Bigbrog]

Parris

[peanut]

11 hours ago, Threadkilla said:

He lost to Caldwell twice.  Spladled in 2008

Right.

[goheels1812]

I’ll throw out one last AOC tidbit. He was only taken down once all year. It was in the ACC championship against Andonian because the ref missed an AOC takedown and Coleman didn’t throw the brick in time for the refs to review it (he threw the brick but the refs said it was too late). If Coleman gets that brick out in time AOC caps off the season as an undefeated national champion that didn’t surround a single takedown on the season. Just dominance (but I also understand 157 wasn’t a loaded weight class this season).