MedicineMan Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 I mean, everyone is capable of getting pinned or self-pinning for that matter. I know it's entirely possible and I'd love to see it happen, just once, starting with Spencer Lee getting stuck by Liam Cronin, in the first period, in :06. (I hope Jimmy doesn't get upset by me stealing his MO, but my pal, @ionel told me I could get my numbers up this way) 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 What are the chances there are already photos of all 10 pins? RBY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 @MedicineMan What are the odds that Spencer Lee bumps up to 133 for his Finals match against RBY and they pin each other? 1 I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Callo Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Seriously - I wonder how many falls there have been in any one NCAA finals over the years? Probably 3 or less would be my guess for any 1 year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedicineMan Posted March 12, 2023 Author Share Posted March 12, 2023 4 hours ago, ionel said: What are the chances there are already photos of all 10 pins? RBY? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 56 minutes ago, Jerry Callo said: Seriously - I wonder how many falls there have been in any one NCAA finals over the years? Probably 3 or less would be my guess for any 1 year 5 in 1933. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedicineMan Posted March 12, 2023 Author Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Betting Yianni goes down hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 21 minutes ago, ionel said: Betting Yianni goes down hard. I'll take that bet. What are the terms I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 16 minutes ago, PortaJohn said: I'll take that bet. What are the terms Its all in the hands of the MedicineMan. Look at what happened to Lee & RBY, you sure you want that bet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveira Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 I would think the odds of 0 pins are way better. Even with Spencer in the finals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadzaev2 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 The return of Medicine Man, AND it's the new MM.....no more Jadidi....he's under the bus!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 4 hours ago, ionel said: 5 in 1933. 1933 had five pinfalls in eight weight classes. 1955 also had five pinfalls, but in ten weight classes. But bouts were longer then. For example, one of the 1933 pinfalls occurred at 12:12. In the 10 weight, 7 minute era (1982 to present) the most was two pinfalls in 1987 and again in 2011. The shortening of matches led to a big drop in finals pinfalls. It has been three tournaments without a pinfall in the finals. If there are none this year it will tie the longest streak of tournaments without a pinfall (1974-1977, 1994-1997, 2003-2006). 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Wrestleknownothing said: 1933 had five pinfalls in eight weight classes. 1955 also had five pinfalls, but in ten weight classes. But bouts were longer then. For example, one of the 1933 pinfalls occurred at 12:12. In the 10 weight, 7 minute era (1982 to present) the most was two pinfalls in 1987 and again in 2011. The shortening of matches led to a big drop in finals pinfalls. It has been three tournaments without a pinfall in the finals. If there are none this year it will tie the longest streak of tournaments without a pinfall (1974-1977, 1994-1997, 2003-2006). You are mistaken again sir, there were no "pinfall" in 1933 nor were there any in 1955. Report of the first mysterious "pinfall" did not occur until mid/late 60s in the back woods of Pennsylvania. But if a pinfalls in the woods and no one is there to see it ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, ionel said: You are mistaken again sir, there were no "pinfall" in 1933 nor were there any in 1955. Report of the first mysterious "pinfall" did not occur until mid/late 60s in the back woods of Pennsylvania. But if a pinfalls in the woods and no one is there to see it ... Pinfall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: Pinfall Show me on the bracket where it says "pinfall." Come on just humor me with a little Missouri. Ohh and no help from the MedicineMan. Edited March 13, 2023 by ionel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bnwtwg Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 @Wrestleknownothing are you emptying the clip now or do you plan to really drop the knowledge hammer as part of the annual twitter trivia contest? i am an idiot on the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, bnwtwg said: @Wrestleknownothing are you emptying the clip now or do you plan to really drop the knowledge hammer as part of the annual twitter trivia contest? Depends. What is Twitter? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 12 hours ago, MedicineMan said: 16 hours ago, ionel said: Its all in the hands of the MedicineMan. Look at what happened to Lee & RBY, you sure you want that bet? I forgot to finalize the bet I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11986 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 13 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said: In the 10 weight, 7 minute era (1982 to present) the most was two pinfalls in 1987 and again in 2011. I think the most significant change regarding 1982 was that Mean Gene the Pinning Machine had used up his eligibility. '81 was fairly noteworthy with Mills, the Banach brothers, and Ricky Stewart all winning by fall in the finals. 2 of those falls were over future multi time World/Olympic Gold medalists as well (Stewart over Dave Schultz and Lou Banach pinning Bruce Baumgartner). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedicineMan Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) FIVE PINS IN A ROW!! SIDE NOTE: Gallagher Reaches Finals by way of 4 Medical Forfeits. Edited March 13, 2023 by MedicineMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadzaev2 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 On 3/12/2023 at 10:31 PM, Wrestleknownothing said: 1933 had five pinfalls in eight weight classes. 1955 also had five pinfalls, but in ten weight classes. But bouts were longer then. For example, one of the 1933 pinfalls occurred at 12:12. In the 10 weight, 7 minute era (1982 to present) the most was two pinfalls in 1987 and again in 2011. The shortening of matches led to a big drop in finals pinfalls. It has been three tournaments without a pinfall in the finals. If there are none this year it will tie the longest streak of tournaments without a pinfall (1974-1977, 1994-1997, 2003-2006). Can't they just be pins or falls.....what is a pinfall? (rhetorical question) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 25 minutes ago, Fadzaev2 said: Can't they just be pins or falls.....what is a pinfall? (rhetorical question) I am not sure what it is about pinfall that I love so much, but then who can explain love? Maybe because it seems old fashioned and archaic to me, even if it is neither. I just love it. And that it drives @ionel to distraction is just a bonus. By the way, why is fall acceptible? Wrestlers fon't fall. Fall implies no outside agency. A fall is an accident. A fall is something we inflict on ourselves. A fall is preceeded by a trip. And followed by a broken hip. I have talked myself into pinfall is superior to fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortaJohn Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 55 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said: I am not sure what it is about pinfall that I love so much, but then who can explain love? Maybe because it seems old fashioned and archaic to me, even if it is neither. I just love it. And that it drives @ionel to distraction is just a bonus. By the way, why is fall acceptible? Wrestlers fon't fall. Fall implies no outside agency. A fall is an accident. A fall is something we inflict on ourselves. A fall is preceeded by a trip. And followed by a broken hip. I have talked myself into pinfall is superior to fall. This is interesting stuff. Is the correct term Pin Shoulders, Shoulders Pinned, Pin Back, Back Pin? I Don't Agree With What I Posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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