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Just now, MPhillips said:

Since when does, "going out to fast" now described as "adrenaline dump?" Is that just the cute catch phrase we now use? 

LOL.  So true.

Guy is very fast twitch.  Never wrestled folk.  Either he learns to slow it down or he will always be extra tired at the end of a folk match.  You can't make up 15 years of training in a few years.

Posted
16 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Blaze said in an interview that Ono is not going to have a problem on bottom,

As of right now we don't really know other than he beat a solid wrestler in Desmond behind closed doors.  I'm hoping and praying he'll do just fine on bottom but I'll have to look at his upcoming schedule to see when he wrestles someone who throws double boots in.  That'll tell us everything  

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Posted
5 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

As of right now we don't really know other than he beat a solid wrestler in Desmond behind closed doors.  I'm hoping and praying he'll do just fine on bottom but I'll have to look at his upcoming schedule to see when he wrestles someone who throws double boots in.  That'll tell us everything  

Yes.  Very valid.  Like I said, Blaze would probably also predict that he himself would escape Seidel and Davino, but we saw what happened.  It is obviously expected that he will be supportive of his teammate in this way.  Mrs. Desmond seemed to think that her boy had an advantage on top for some reason.

Maybe he will be amazing on bottom. It remains to be seen.  

I also think he is going to have to really slow it down, or the gas tank is going to be an issue, especially in a match with more folkstyle positions.

Posted
10 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

As of right now we don't really know other than he beat a solid wrestler in Desmond behind closed doors.  I'm hoping and praying he'll do just fine on bottom but I'll have to look at his upcoming schedule to see when he wrestles someone who throws double boots in.  That'll tell us everything  

I completely agree.  Like I said I know he's going to be support, it was just specifically what he said that I found interesting.

 

2 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Yes.  Very valid.  Like I said, Blaze would probably also predict that he himself would escape Seidel and Davino, but we saw what happened.  It is obviously expected that he will be supportive of his teammate in this way.  Mrs. Desmond seemed to think that her boy had an advantage on top for some reason.

Maybe he will be amazing on bottom. It remains to be seen.  

I also think he is going to have to really slow it down, or the gas tank is going to be an issue, especially in a match with more folkstyle positions.

I think he'll be fine.  It was his first competition experience in a style that has a higher pace (and by higher I mean more consistent, constant wrestling happening) than what he is used to.  By March he will be used to that pace. 

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6 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Yes.  Very valid.  Like I said, Blaze would probably also predict that he himself would escape Seidel and Davino, but we saw what happened.  It is obviously expected that he will be supportive of his teammate in this way.  Mrs. Desmond seemed to think that her boy had an advantage on top for some reason.

Maybe he will be amazing on bottom. It remains to be seen.  

I also think he is going to have to really slow it down, or the gas tank is going to be an issue, especially in a match with more folkstyle positions.

Quite of few things he needs to work on. Like you said, pacing.  Also, work on your top game young fella.  Especially in these early season matches.  He has the mechanics to be good at tilting.  Had a decent one set up.  We already know your a takedown savant   

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Posted
Just now, WrestlingRasta said:

I completely agree.  Like I said I know he's going to be support, it was just specifically what he said that I found interesting.

 

I think he'll be fine.  It was his first competition experience in a style that has a higher pace (and by higher I mean more consistent, constant wrestling happening) than what he is used to.  By March he will be used to that pace. 

I just don't think that is how physiology works unless the Treigning Lab puts him on the same regimen that TJ Dillashaw was on.  

Just like Spencer Lee, even if he had been 100% healthy, would probably never have been able to wrestle at a Bo Bassett pace for 7 minutes.  

Either slow down and pick his spots, or get somewhat gassed in the third.  Keep in mind last night was a match that he dictated, it might be different with Forrest or Seidel.

Posted
1 minute ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

I just don't think that is how physiology works unless the Treigning Lab puts him on the same regimen that TJ Dillashaw was on.  

Just like Spencer Lee, even if he had been 100% healthy, would probably never have been able to wrestle at a Bo Bassett pace for 7 minutes.  

Either slow down and pick his spots, or get somewhat gassed in the third.  Keep in mind last night was a match that he dictated, it might be different with Forrest or Seidel.

I mean, it actually is precisely how physiology works, but I will digress on that.  I totally agree with you in regards to slow down and pick his spots, and I believe that will be part of his figuring out the folkstyle pace.    As for the Bo Bassett pace, there are not many who will be able to, he's just in a different column with very few accompanying him there. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

Quite of few things he needs to work on. Like you said, pacing.  Also, work on your top game young fella.  Especially in these early season matches.  He has the mechanics to be good at tilting.  Had a decent one set up.  We already know your a takedown savant   

In the brief clips I watched, he looked almost too active on top.  Like switching up his ride/breakdown when he didn't need to.  It was just a couple seconds, but it looked like he was doing a bit too much.  I know that will probably be fixable, or maybe even a non-issue (what do I know?), but it seems that someone could maybe 'gas him from bottom' at this point.

Posted
1 minute ago, WrestlingRasta said:

I mean, it actually is precisely how physiology works, but I will digress on that.  I totally agree with you in regards to slow down and pick his spots, and I believe that will be part of his figuring out the folkstyle pace.    As for the Bo Bassett pace, there are not many who will be able to, he's just in a different column with very few accompanying him there. 

Well, no it actually isn't.  People have genetic physiological limitations.  Usain Bolt ain't winning a marathon.  The top Kenyans aren't winning the 100m.  

Not to mention picking up a new sport is going to add to this difficulty.

Probably a good time to digress...

Posted
7 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Well, no it actually isn't.  People have genetic physiological limitations.  Usain Bolt ain't winning a marathon.  The top Kenyans aren't winning the 100m.  

Not to mention picking up a new sport is going to add to this difficulty.

Probably a good time to digress...

Of course Usain Bolt isn't winning a marathon.  But, while there is certainly a pace difference between folk and free....trying to pretend that difference is the relative same regarding a 100 yard run and a 24 mile run is just silly.  And if that's what we're doing.....yes great time to digress.  Have a great weekend. 

Posted
15 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Well, no it actually isn't.  People have genetic physiological limitations.  Usain Bolt ain't winning a marathon.  The top Kenyans aren't winning the 100m.  

Not to mention picking up a new sport is going to add to this difficulty.

Probably a good time to digress...

 

5 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Of course Usain Bolt isn't winning a marathon.  But, while there is certainly a pace difference between folk and free....trying to pretend that difference is the relative same regarding a 100 yard run and a 24 mile run is just silly.  And if that's what we're doing.....yes great time to digress.  Have a great weekend. 

I'll join you two and thrice-gress 

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Posted
16 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Of course Usain Bolt isn't winning a marathon.  But, while there is certainly a pace difference between folk and free....trying to pretend that difference is the relative same regarding a 100 yard run and a 24 mile run is just silly.  And if that's what we're doing.....yes great time to digress.  Have a great weekend. 

24 mile run?  Stop...

Posted
1 hour ago, MPhillips said:

Since when does, "going out to fast" now described as "adrenaline dump?" Is that just the cute catch phrase we now use? 

Maybe he just flew back in from Japan and had jet lag plus adrenaline dump and trained to hard day of match.  🙅‍♀️

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Posted
1 minute ago, ionel said:

Maybe he just flew back in from Japan and had jet lag plus adrenaline dump and trained to hard day of match.  🙅‍♀️

I think he had swine flu as well.

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Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, ionel said:

Maybe he just flew back in from Japan and had jet lag plus adrenaline dump and trained to hard day of match.  🙅‍♀️

and missed a few meals. I see him less effective at 57kg

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Gene Mills Fan said:

and missed a few meals

... did anyone tell him there was a 3rd period?  

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Posted
3 minutes ago, ionel said:

... did anyone tell him there was a 3rd period?  

lol, he needs to have the energy to get out from under top hammers Seidel and Jax in the 3rd. 

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I think a rider who can extend scrambles off of leg attack positions and threaten cradles in scrambles or from top is going to get him.  I'm going to stand by my assertion that a guy like Brock Hardy would be a nightmare matchup for Ono.  Jax or Seidel beats him in folk.

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Posted (edited)
45 minutes ago, ionel said:

Maybe he just flew back in from Japan and had jet lag plus adrenaline dump and trained to hard day of match.  🙅‍♀️

Let's not forget that he has also been training folk there for almost two years. It is not something he picked up yesterday.

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Posted
18 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

My bad, 26.   

It ain't 26 either it's 26.2.  That last 0.2 can kill you.  

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