Hammerlock3 Posted October 12 Posted October 12 I'm not gonna do a breakdown, but yesterday someone pointed out to me that OSU had 3 true freshmen champs and a runner up and i realized it was stupid to sleep on em. "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
ionel Posted October 12 Posted October 12 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: I'm not gonna do a breakdown, but yesterday someone pointed out to me that OSU had 3 true freshmen champs and a runner up and i realized it was stupid to sleep on em. Good to see you wake up. Edited October 12 by ionel .
Hammerlock3 Posted October 12 Author Posted October 12 2 minutes ago, ionel said: Good to see you wake up. the heart warms "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
Simpleman424 Posted October 12 Posted October 12 33 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: I'm not gonna do a breakdown, but yesterday someone pointed out to me that OSU had 3 true freshmen champs and a runner up and i realized it was stupid to sleep on em. Two of the three over performed if that makes you feel better… 1
Hammerlock3 Posted October 12 Author Posted October 12 3 minutes ago, Simpleman424 said: Two of the three over performed if that makes you feel better… why would that make me feel better? "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
Simpleman424 Posted October 12 Posted October 12 4 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: why would that make me feel better? Well you said you realized it’d be stupid to sleep on them…if you were sleeping on them you might feel stupid. Since they over performed it’s ok to sleep on them a little…
Hammerlock3 Posted October 12 Author Posted October 12 17 minutes ago, Simpleman424 said: Well you said you realized it’d be stupid to sleep on them…if you were sleeping on them you might feel stupid. Since they over performed it’s ok to sleep on them a little… "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
ionel Posted October 12 Posted October 12 1 hour ago, Simpleman424 said: Two of the three over performed if that makes you feel better… Who were these over performer? .
Le duke Posted October 12 Posted October 12 4 hours ago, ionel said: Who were these over performer? One of them was taken down in OT, and they mistakenly reversed the call, per the head of officiating for the NCAA.
Truzzcat Posted October 12 Posted October 12 Oklahoma state is going to need to maximize their ceilings at 141 and 285 and hope that psu is closer to their floor at those two weights. 149, 165, 174, 184 are the other weights to watch for me. SVN is great but I think there is a chance he falls down the podium this year. Valencia, Hneson, Vega, Mendoza all outplacing him would not shock me. Duke is likely going to be a bonus machine at 165 this year and I am starting to feel like swiderski may be the guy at 165 but whoever it is Oklahoma state cannot be outside of the top 5 there and I think the same goes for 174 and to an extent 184. Rocco is likely not going to bonus like Duke or MM but its hard to invision him outside of the top 4 so you cannot give up too much ground. I have it 5 and 5 in terms of which team puts a guy on the podium higher 125: PSU 133: OKST (huge weight) 141: OKST (ONO maybe has a higher ceiling to be determined) 149: OKST 157: OKST 165: PSU 174: PSU 184: PSU 197: PSU 285: OKST the main difference comes down to bonus and overall confidence the weights I have PSU guys there is not much doubt. I am the personal property of VakAttack
Hammerlock3 Posted October 12 Author Posted October 12 7 hours ago, Le duke said: One of them was taken down in OT, and they mistakenly reversed the call, per the head of officiating for the NCAA. man if only PSU could get a call..... 6 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
jackwebster Posted October 12 Posted October 12 7 hours ago, Le duke said: One of them was taken down in OT, and they mistakenly reversed the call, per the head of officiating for the NCAA. In OT you say?
flyingcement Posted October 12 Posted October 12 (edited) 125: Lilledahl vs Spratley 133: Blaze vs Forrest 141: Desmond vs Raney 149: Van Ness vs Vega 157: Kasak vs Robideaux 165: Duke vs Lockett 174: Mesenbrink vs Norman 184: Welsh vs Berge 197: Barr vs Merrill 285: Mirasola vs Doucet Edited October 12 by flyingcement 1
jackwebster Posted October 12 Posted October 12 13 minutes ago, flyingcement said: 125: Lilledahl vs Spratley 133: Blaze vs Forrest 141: Desmond vs Raney 149: Van Ness vs Vega 157: Kasak vs Robideaux 165: Duke vs Lockett 174: Mesenbrink vs Norman 184: Welsh vs Berge 197: Barr vs Merrill 285: Mirasola vs Doucet Ugghh. I think it's more likely that PSU wins 9 matches than it is for OSU to win the dual.
BruceyB Posted October 12 Posted October 12 7 hours ago, Le duke said: One of them was taken down in OT, and they mistakenly reversed the call, per the head of officiating for the NCAA. 1
BruceyB Posted October 12 Posted October 12 5 hours ago, Truzzcat said: the main difference comes down to bonus and overall confidence the weights I have PSU guys there is not much doubt. The main difference is the floor of each team. In a let down performance from OKST, it's not hard to picture Spratley in the 7th/8th match, 165 is a wildcard right now, 174 has never placed, 184 gives some Richie Figs vibes after let down seasons the last couple of years, and I'm hoping we see more offense from Merrill, but heading into last years tournament he wasn't a lock to AA and ended up in the finals. The good thing is they have multiple guys at those question mark weights, and I feel confident that whoever gets the starting spot should be very competitive. With PSU though, a down performance outside of 141 and 285 right now is 4th place. I feel like most of us know that 2027-2028 is the first year OKST should actually be in a realistic team race conversation. It's PSU, so I'm sure whoever gets the starting spot at 149 and 174 in that season will be very competitive, but you can really only lose points when replacing Mesenbrink, and right now, I don't know that they have a NC contender waiting in the wings at 149. A strong showing from OKST this year will give the 27-28 race some real juice. 1
ionel Posted October 12 Posted October 12 1 hour ago, flyingcement said: 125: Lilledahl vs Spratley 133: Blaze vs Forrest 141: Desmond vs Raney 149: Van Ness vs Vega 157: Kasak vs Robideaux 165: Duke vs Lockett 174: Mesenbrink vs Norman 184: Welsh vs Berge 197: Barr vs Merrill 285: Mirasola vs Doucet If only Carl would let the boys play. .
flyingcement Posted October 12 Posted October 12 50 minutes ago, ionel said: If only Carl would let the boys play. maybe he is protecting the environment from a forrest blaze. we have a lot of those out in california 4
ionel Posted October 12 Posted October 12 48 minutes ago, flyingcement said: maybe he is protecting the environment from a forrest blaze. we have a lot of those out in california Carl has gone green. 1 1 .
Truzzcat Posted October 13 Posted October 13 Watched RBY's last youtube video its just him wrestling with Masa for 6 minutes but would highly recommend. A few things I took away from it, they both look really freaking good, RBY looks bigger than Masa dare I say quite a bit larger so I am not sure how 141 goes for him. Masa did get wrist control and hit a sit out on bottom and also hit a cradle but it was very hard to tell how much if any resistance was being offered. I am the personal property of VakAttack
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted October 13 Posted October 13 On 10/12/2026 at 3:57 AM, Le duke said: One of them was taken down in OT, and they mistakenly reversed the call, per the head of officiating for the NCAA. You are correct. Now do Matt Brown in 2015... 1
Ricketycricket Posted October 13 Posted October 13 1 hour ago, Truzzcat said: Watched RBY's last youtube video its just him wrestling with Masa for 6 minutes but would highly recommend. A few things I took away from it, they both look really freaking good, RBY looks bigger than Masa dare I say quite a bit larger so I am not sure how 141 goes for him. Masa did get wrist control and hit a sit out on bottom and also hit a cradle but it was very hard to tell how much if any resistance was being offered. why not provide the link for people?
The_KC_Godfather Posted October 13 Posted October 13 I agree a big factor is bonus points. That’s been PSU’s dominance factor. For the first time, another coach is pushing it big time (the other coach just so happening to come from PSU). When you watch Stilly Boys videos, DT is constantly preaching it. One episode he let Lockett have it for not pushing for bonus in a dual. It seems like there are certain guys that have it and others don’t. Jax is always pushing. Landon is always pushing. MM obviously is always pushing. This is the thing that always aggravates me about Mizzou (and I feel like started with Mauller and Jacques). Then you get someone like O’Toole and Sinclair who have the mindset to keep scoring. OSU is capable, but a lot will have to go right (seeding, bonus, etc) and a lot will have to go wrong for PSU. Spratley has been in the finals. Jax is an undefeated NC. Raney is unknown but huge ceiling. Vega and Landon are NC’s. Dee beat Caliendo. Norman stayed with Hamiti as a frosh (probably OSU’s only “weak spot”). Berge’s an AA. Merrill is a finalist and Doucet is the highest returning placer. So that’s 5 previous finalists and two more AA’s. Plus high ceilings with Raney and Dee. Aside from LL, (probably) PJ, MM, and Barr, PSU has no guaranteed finalists, imo.
The_KC_Godfather Posted October 13 Posted October 13 1 hour ago, Ricketycricket said: why not provide the link for people? https://gprivate.com/6mbro 1
Le duke Posted October 13 Posted October 13 4 hours ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: You are correct. Now do Matt Brown in 2015... No disagreement from me. 1
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