Pyles "I cant see Iowa any lower than 5th"

[Hammerlock3]

1 hour ago, jdw21 said:

For fun, I’ll take a sig bet that says the transfer doesn’t beat any of Jax, Blaze, Seidel, or Davino at NCAA’s.

stunning and brave...

[BruceyB]

5 hours ago, Truzzcat said:

On FRL the guys were discussing the Iowa lineup and I thought they were potentially overly optimistic and CP said he could see them as high as 3 and no lower than 5 on the merit of paraphrasing "The Brands always finish top 5" I simply do not agree with either of those assesments I think for one this is one of the most top heavy fields we've ever had and by that I mean I think the top 8 teams or so are all really freaking good, and I also cannot recall an Iowa team since I have been following college wrestling that has less sure things.

125: 2nd and 3rd was thrown around and do not get me wrong I am a big fan of Leo Deluca but we have 1 match in his college sample that is including u20's because he has not competed in that either and in that 1 match he beat Mack Mauger 2-0 who I think at his very best is a r12 guy this year. The prediction was based on "really big recruit" "Iowa 125" "reports he looks great in the room" and while I understand 125 is volatile when we are talking about a freshman being a high podium guy I need more than the quotes above and most notable results being losing a close one to Knox in 2023 and beating Blaze in 2022 2 months after Blaze lost to Jake Crapps. 
my prediction: Ceiling 7th Floor r16

133: This is probably one one of Iowa's lock weight which is partially why I am so pessimistic about them. Crookham is incredible as evident by beating Vito twice but I think there are a lot of reasons to be concerned here. The obvious one being he has had one full season in the last 6 years going all the way back to missing his junior year of high school and a big part of his senior year. When you couple that with putting him in the toughest weight in the country from a top 5 perspective coupling that in with there now being much more familiarity with how he wants to wrestle, I think he will be in some dogfights with guys like Van dee, Andricck, Lopes, Knox.
my prediction: Ceiling 4^th Floor injury or 7th

141: Nasir was wrestling much more like the guy we have come to expect towards the end of last season, he did fall short of the podium, but I liked what I saw and he has had another off season to grow a bit more into 141. Nasir is notorious for choosing neutral in the third down 1-0 and staring at his opponent so if he stops doing that he’s probably going to win 3-4 more matches than he usually would. I have been on record saying I think 141 is going to be one of the weaker weights this year if everyone goes where we are anticipating. Given that I think that Nasir has a strong chance to get back on the podium but I do not see him creeping into that top 4.
my Prediction: Ceiling 5^th Floor r16

149: Ryder Block is very good and generally given the type of year he had and his age I would be super bullish on him. However this weight went from being arguably one of the weakest last year to one of the strongest and I am not entirely sure where he falls. He did have SVN on the ropes at big10’s but you cannot argue he fits into that tier 1 which is the 3 national champs + SVN so that’s 4 spots on the podium. Then you have Jaxon Joy, Seth Mendoza, Sergio Lemley, Echemendia, Frost, Buesgens, Larkin. I think Block can beat some of those guys but I also think he could lose to any of them. That makes it very hard for me to be confident that he AA’s again.
my prediction: Ceiling 7^th Floor r16

157: Jordan Williams on his best day can probably go with just about anyone at this weight. I was excited about his season after a very strong summer but once again given recent circumstances we are left to wonder just how locked In he is. Fortunately, we could have some clarity on that at u23’s. Ultimately it is hard to foresee Jordan putting together enough matches in a row at nationals to be a huge contributor although I think he has all the ability to do so.
Ceiling 7^th Floor Does not compete at the end of the season

165: I expect that Schubert improves his wrestling this year in an on paper much better training environment with PK and Caliendo as well as Gabe. However this weight is rather deep so to predict him confidently to do much better than round of 12 is not something I feel very strongly about. There is the element of him dropping in weight that could be good for him but I also believe 165 next year could be much deeper than 174 was this past season. Kannon webster could be going up adding another huge threat to the top that already includes PJ, Ruiz, Blaze, Lockett then you have guys like Will Denny, Bryce Hepner, Noah Ninninger, LJ Araujo, Noah Ninninger those all feel like 50/50 matches to me for Schubert.
Ceiling 5^th Floor r12

174: After AA’ing up at 197 and now returning to his best weight class Gabe feels very safe to AA and I think he will and could place very highly on the podium. I am not sure I would go as far as to say I could see him wrestling on Saturday night like the flow guys did, I do not know that I feel its in his range of outcomes to beat a Minto or MM but I could certainly see a top 3 finish. We have not as of yet seen Gabe show an ability to separate himself from guys in that top 20ish range though which is always scary when you’re having 1 exchange matches potentially from round 2 on at nationals.
Ceiling 3^rd Floor r12

184: Recency bias makes me want to put him as the clear 4 out of the big guys at this weight, however it cannot be forgotten that he is 2-0 against Sinclair who would probably be my pick gun to my head to win it next year. Ultimately if he can get on his offense more I think he can be the best but having to beat 2 or 3 of these guys in sudden victory is a daunting task.
Ceiling 1^st floor 4^th

197: I actually thought Harvey had a better redshirt year than a lot of people gave him credit for. All of his losses were competitive and while losing to Nelson and Platt is not ideal when you are expecting someone to be a big point scorer we have seen crazier jumps from a redshirt year to a first year in the lineup. I think Harvey is probably more of a guy that we see make steady year over year progress, and I am not predicting him on the podium this year but I think he will have very good moments.
Ceiling r16 floor DNQ

285: Under the assumption Doucet is not starting Keuter should be the preseason favorite, although if you think about Doucet not starting because Ross is the guy it does not take a ton of extrapolation to think he is the favorite but I digress. Keuters ceiling is a national champion but seeing him lose to any of Ross, Merrill, Mirasola 1a or 1b, Feldman, Ziola, Carroll would not surprise me and I would pick a few of them over him personally.
Ceiling 1^st floor 6^th

I could be overly critical and underselling some of these guys but the token of their floor being 5^th with by my estimate 3 all American locks when I believe teams behind them have much higher floors and potentially even ceilings for that matter is just to me an oversight.

 

Thank you for granting my wish. I wanted to make the same thread after listening to Wednesday's episode. Putting the floor at 5th when I would only consider 3 guys as essentially locks to AA (one of these being Crookham, mind you) is just absurd. The excuse that Iowa never finishes lower than fifth was just dumb IMO. If nothing else, he should have said what the floor actually is, and followed that by saying he would be surprised if they finished any lower than 5th when it's all said and done.

I'll be back with more review when I have some time. Appreciate the breakdown!

[MoveCountermove]

13 hours ago, Truzzcat said:

He did impress me a lot this summer though beating Ed Scott and Melvin

But not in folkstyle

[ionel]

10 hours ago, BruceyB said:

 Appreciate the breakdown!

ifn only we could get the reel brakedown ewe no what i mean 

[BruceyB]

40 minutes ago, ionel said:

ifn only we could get the reel brakedown ewe no what i mean 

[Simpleman424]

1 hour ago, ionel said:

ifn only we could get the reel brakedown ewe no what i mean 

That weird OK State social media got you a little zesty?

 

[Mr. PeanutButter]

How quickly the memory of Kentucky mudflap fades away

[lu_alum]

47 minutes ago, Mr. PeanutButter said:

How quickly the memory of Kentucky mudflap fades away

So true... Makes me wonder how many people still exist on this forum that earned a degree in understanding 'Mudflap-ese'.

[ionel]

1 hour ago, lu_alum said:

So true... Makes me wonder how many people still exist on this forum that earned a degree in understanding 'Mudflap-ese'.

if u aint never downd a pbr wheel readn the annual mFlap brakedown ima gonna call ewe a liar 

[WrestlingRash]

nobody has mentioned that Mario and Luigi Brands overtrain their team like its 1990 and at least 3 of their projected starters will be injured in March and won't even wrestle. 

[Hammerlock3]

6 minutes ago, WrestlingRash said:

nobody has mentioned that Mario and Luigi Brands overtrain their team like its 1990 and at least 3 of their projected starters will be injured in March and won't even wrestle. 

yeah cause people don't like saying something if they know the dumbest guy in the room is gonna say it any second anyway.

[MPhillips]

8 hours ago, lu_alum said:

So true... Makes me wonder how many people still exist on this forum that earned a degree in understanding 'Mudflap-ese'.

Not many. Some folks believe LJB just showed up.

[RawDog]

Unfortunately they have zero depth.  If they somehow stay healthy they are a top 3 team but with 5 starters who are coming off injury issues and another with a substance abuse issue I'm afraid this season is going to fall apart.

[WrestlingRash]

5 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said:

yeah cause people don't like saying something if they know the dumbest guy in the room is gonna say it any second anyway.

you okay? you seem drunk. 

[Hammerlock3]

47 minutes ago, WrestlingRash said:

you okay? you seem drunk. 

I wouldn't normally reference likes but the people liking my post didn't seem to think so. 

[Tyler Perry]

On 9/18/2026 at 4:13 PM, Truzzcat said:

On FRL the guys were discussing the Iowa lineup and I thought they were potentially overly optimistic and CP said he could see them as high as 3 and no lower than 5 on the merit of paraphrasing "The Brands always finish top 5" I simply do not agree with either of those assesments I think for one this is one of the most top heavy fields we've ever had and by that I mean I think the top 8 teams or so are all really freaking good, and I also cannot recall an Iowa team since I have been following college wrestling that has less sure things.

125: 2nd and 3rd was thrown around and do not get me wrong I am a big fan of Leo Deluca but we have 1 match in his college sample that is including u20's because he has not competed in that either and in that 1 match he beat Mack Mauger 2-0 who I think at his very best is a r12 guy this year. The prediction was based on "really big recruit" "Iowa 125" "reports he looks great in the room" and while I understand 125 is volatile when we are talking about a freshman being a high podium guy I need more than the quotes above and most notable results being losing a close one to Knox in 2023 and beating Blaze in 2022 2 months after Blaze lost to Jake Crapps. 
my prediction: Ceiling 7th Floor r16

133: This is probably one one of Iowa's lock weight which is partially why I am so pessimistic about them. Crookham is incredible as evident by beating Vito twice but I think there are a lot of reasons to be concerned here. The obvious one being he has had one full season in the last 6 years going all the way back to missing his junior year of high school and a big part of his senior year. When you couple that with putting him in the toughest weight in the country from a top 5 perspective coupling that in with there now being much more familiarity with how he wants to wrestle, I think he will be in some dogfights with guys like Van dee, Andricck, Lopes, Knox.
my prediction: Ceiling 4^th Floor injury or 7th

141: Nasir was wrestling much more like the guy we have come to expect towards the end of last season, he did fall short of the podium, but I liked what I saw and he has had another off season to grow a bit more into 141. Nasir is notorious for choosing neutral in the third down 1-0 and staring at his opponent so if he stops doing that he’s probably going to win 3-4 more matches than he usually would. I have been on record saying I think 141 is going to be one of the weaker weights this year if everyone goes where we are anticipating. Given that I think that Nasir has a strong chance to get back on the podium but I do not see him creeping into that top 4.
my Prediction: Ceiling 5^th Floor r16

149: Ryder Block is very good and generally given the type of year he had and his age I would be super bullish on him. However this weight went from being arguably one of the weakest last year to one of the strongest and I am not entirely sure where he falls. He did have SVN on the ropes at big10’s but you cannot argue he fits into that tier 1 which is the 3 national champs + SVN so that’s 4 spots on the podium. Then you have Jaxon Joy, Seth Mendoza, Sergio Lemley, Echemendia, Frost, Buesgens, Larkin. I think Block can beat some of those guys but I also think he could lose to any of them. That makes it very hard for me to be confident that he AA’s again.
my prediction: Ceiling 7^th Floor r16

157: Jordan Williams on his best day can probably go with just about anyone at this weight. I was excited about his season after a very strong summer but once again given recent circumstances we are left to wonder just how locked In he is. Fortunately, we could have some clarity on that at u23’s. Ultimately it is hard to foresee Jordan putting together enough matches in a row at nationals to be a huge contributor although I think he has all the ability to do so.
Ceiling 7^th Floor Does not compete at the end of the season

165: I expect that Schubert improves his wrestling this year in an on paper much better training environment with PK and Caliendo as well as Gabe. However this weight is rather deep so to predict him confidently to do much better than round of 12 is not something I feel very strongly about. There is the element of him dropping in weight that could be good for him but I also believe 165 next year could be much deeper than 174 was this past season. Kannon webster could be going up adding another huge threat to the top that already includes PJ, Ruiz, Blaze, Lockett then you have guys like Will Denny, Bryce Hepner, Noah Ninninger, LJ Araujo, Noah Ninninger those all feel like 50/50 matches to me for Schubert.
Ceiling 5^th Floor r12

174: After AA’ing up at 197 and now returning to his best weight class Gabe feels very safe to AA and I think he will and could place very highly on the podium. I am not sure I would go as far as to say I could see him wrestling on Saturday night like the flow guys did, I do not know that I feel its in his range of outcomes to beat a Minto or MM but I could certainly see a top 3 finish. We have not as of yet seen Gabe show an ability to separate himself from guys in that top 20ish range though which is always scary when you’re having 1 exchange matches potentially from round 2 on at nationals.
Ceiling 3^rd Floor r12

184: Recency bias makes me want to put him as the clear 4 out of the big guys at this weight, however it cannot be forgotten that he is 2-0 against Sinclair who would probably be my pick gun to my head to win it next year. Ultimately if he can get on his offense more I think he can be the best but having to beat 2 or 3 of these guys in sudden victory is a daunting task.
Ceiling 1^st floor 4^th

197: I actually thought Harvey had a better redshirt year than a lot of people gave him credit for. All of his losses were competitive and while losing to Nelson and Platt is not ideal when you are expecting someone to be a big point scorer we have seen crazier jumps from a redshirt year to a first year in the lineup. I think Harvey is probably more of a guy that we see make steady year over year progress, and I am not predicting him on the podium this year but I think he will have very good moments.
Ceiling r16 floor DNQ

285: Under the assumption Doucet is not starting Keuter should be the preseason favorite, although if you think about Doucet not starting because Ross is the guy it does not take a ton of extrapolation to think he is the favorite but I digress. Keuters ceiling is a national champion but seeing him lose to any of Ross, Merrill, Mirasola 1a or 1b, Feldman, Ziola, Carroll would not surprise me and I would pick a few of them over him personally.
Ceiling 1^st floor 6^th

I could be overly critical and underselling some of these guys but the token of their floor being 5^th with by my estimate 3 all American locks when I believe teams behind them have much higher floors and potentially even ceilings for that matter is just to me an oversight.

 

Great breakdown, a lot of bubble guys imo. I have their floor 8th 

 

I think DeLuca is getting too much hype like you said.

 

I liked what the guy said on the show about Crookham, he is world class on his feet and he’s very good on the mat and if he’s wrestling a guy like Marcus blaze and it goes to tiebreakers, it’s not crazy to say that Crookham and beat him. I still think he’s 5th

 

Bailey did wrestle better in the postseason, but I was thoroughly unimpressed by him

 

I think Jorden Williams goes 49 and Block 57. Think they’re likely R12, 6/8 guys.

 

Schubert is a stud, but I think he’d also a bubble guy.

 

Arnold has the biggest variance, his ceiling is 2nd but his floor is R12.

 

Angelo is probably a top 4 lock, but I don’t think it’s impossible for someone to steal a match with how close he keeps it. Brock Man?  

 

Harvey is a stud and his losses last year weren’t bad. but may I remind you he lost to Nick Nosler this summer?

 

Ben is a stud, but HWT is stacked, I have him 6th right now but he could totally win

[Spladle]

Pyles knows his audience. Don’t look much further into it than that. 

[Hammerlock3]

Do we have any indication that crookham is healthy? Guy has been gone for 2 years....

[Mr. PeanutButter]

13 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

Do we have any indication that crookham is healthy? Guy has been gone for 2 years....

A family friend of mine said he did not see Crookham at last weekend's open practice. He didn't see Spencer either so naturally the only rational thing to do is to speculate wildly that both have suffered a myriad of gruesome career ending injuries. Crookham is probably interviewing for a job in home insurance as we speak. The field must be lucrative. My parent's home insurance has rocketed by 200% in the last 2 years 

[Simpleman424]

6 minutes ago, Mr. PeanutButter said:

A family friend of mine said he did not see Crookham at last weekend's open practice. He didn't see Spencer either so naturally the only rational thing to do is to speculate wildly that both have suffered a myriad of gruesome career ending injuries. Crookham is probably interviewing for a job in home insurance as we speak. The field must be lucrative. My parent's home insurance has rocketed by 200% in the last 2 years 

Insurance or perhaps a trade…like roofing

[ionel]

44 minutes ago, Mr. PeanutButter said:

A family friend of mine said he did not see Crookham at last weekend's open practice. He didn't see Spencer either so naturally the only rational thing to do is to speculate wildly that both have suffered a myriad of gruesome career ending injuries. Crookham is probably interviewing for a job in home insurance as we speak. The field must be lucrative. My parent's home insurance has rocketed by 200% in the last 2 years 

Spencer gone into the roofn business with mFlap?  

[MPhillips]

25 minutes ago, ionel said:

Spencer gone into the roofn business with mFlap?  

gawn into...

[ionel]

1 hour ago, MPhillips said:

gawn into...

yes ... gawn into the bidness 

[WrestlingRash]

10 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said:

Do we have any indication that crookham is healthy? Guy has been gone for 2 years....

and you were just bitching about me bringing up injuries? you are completely cooked. such a clown. 

[ionel]

10 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said:

Do we have any indication that crookham is healthy? Guy has been gone for 2 years....

Tommie thow'n him to the wolves?  

Edited September 21 by ionel