El Luchador Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 I'm beginning to think that whoever is actually running the show puts Biden out to send the message that all hope is lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 GOP got beaten hard by Biden. They hooted and grunted right into an obvious trap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jross Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 I watched it and didn't think it was the slam it was made out to be. I get the angle on it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headshuck Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 America got a first hand look at how easy it is for Biden to lie. He struggled with the teleprompter that probably had multiple prepared responses based on pushback. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jross Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 The praise for how he handled the social security and health care conversation demonstrated there is some competence there. He thinks a little slower but still has some smarts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 1 minute ago, jross said: The praise for how he handled the social security and health care conversation demonstrated there is some competence there. He thinks a little slower but still has some smarts. Would you agree that the hooters and grunters like MTG fell right into a trap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jross Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Yes definitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 What trap? No one in this Congress other than Rick Scott, has supported changing SS or Medicare. So when Biden said there were some in Congress (there is one perhaps in Congress - Rick Scott) they let him know he was wrong. He lied to the American people directly with this. And this is applause worthy? The Rs were already on record saying they don't want changes to SS or Medicare. So how is there a trap? mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Saying that, I can see how sycophants would think this was brilliant. But getting the Rs to say on record during the SOTU speech while misrepresenting what they have already said on record is not some brilliant move. R's don't want to change SS and Medicare. They have been down that road and it wasn't pleasant. mspart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Parrish Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 27 minutes ago, mspart said: What trap? No one in this Congress other than Rick Scott, has supported changing SS or Medicare. So when Biden said there were some in Congress (there is one perhaps in Congress - Rick Scott) they let him know he was wrong. He lied to the American people directly with this. And this is applause worthy? The Rs were already on record saying they don't want changes to SS or Medicare. So how is there a trap? mspart https://democrats.org/news/these-republicans-want-to-cut-social-security-medicare/ https://vadogwood.com/2022/10/27/6-times-republicans-suggested-or-outright-said-they-want-to-cut-social-security-and-medicare/ https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/02/us/politics/republicans-social-security-medicare.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Wrong media sources. Highly partisan. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Luchador Posted February 10, 2023 Author Share Posted February 10, 2023 20 hours ago, Mike Parrish said: https://democrats.org/news/these-republicans-want-to-cut-social-security-medicare/ https://vadogwood.com/2022/10/27/6-times-republicans-suggested-or-outright-said-they-want-to-cut-social-security-and-medicare/ https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/02/us/politics/republicans-social-security-medicare.html We all know this a false narrative, but I still support it. Putting DC in charge of my money is probably the most foolish decision one could make. They have bankrupted this country and I'm supposed to rely on them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYou Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 21 hours ago, mspart said: Saying that, I can see how sycophants would think this was brilliant. But getting the Rs to say on record during the SOTU speech while misrepresenting what they have already said on record is not some brilliant move. R's don't want to change SS and Medicare. They have been down that road and it wasn't pleasant. mspart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Where did you get that? NYPost? FOX? Breitbart? OAN? Oh, I see, it was C-SPAN. Right up there with the loonies C-SPAN is. Can't trust them. mspart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYou Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 14 minutes ago, El Luchador said: We all know this a false narrative, but I still support it. Putting DC in charge of my money is probably the most foolish decision one could make. They have bankrupted this country and I'm supposed to rely on them? The federal SSI account was well funded back in the 60's but Johnson needed cash to expand the Vietnam war. He proceeded to unlock the SSA safe and transfer the entire fund to the general treasury where it sits today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYou Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, mspart said: Where did you get that? NYPost? FOX? Breitbart? OAN? Oh, I see, it was C-SPAN. Right up there with the loonies C-SPAN is. Can't trust them. mspart Televised on C-SPAN but I think it's a CBS copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Oh, so you are saying that this is documented by C-SPAN and CBS which are very much credible news sources. And Biden is not dubbed here, he is actually saying SS needs to be reigned in a bit. HMMMMMMM mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 1 hour ago, RYou said: 26 minutes ago, mspart said: Oh, so you are saying that this is documented by C-SPAN and CBS which are very much credible news sources. And Biden is not dubbed here, he is actually saying SS needs to be reigned in a bit. HMMMMMMM mspart Wow. You folks didn't get the memo. CBS is MSM. Liberal liars! Don't feel bad. C-Span had a lapse as well. They secretly deployed advanced AI to dub that word "freeze" over what he actually said, which was "cut". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 22 hours ago, mspart said: What trap? No one in this Congress other than Rick Scott, has supported changing SS or Medicare. So when Biden said there were some in Congress (there is one perhaps in Congress - Rick Scott) they let him know he was wrong. He lied to the American people directly with this. And this is applause worthy? The Rs were already on record saying they don't want changes to SS or Medicare. So how is there a trap? mspart this is hilariously untrue. half that party is on tape saying it explicitly. i'm sure that's all fake right? hell even biden wants to cut back benefits. his populist economic message right now is simply a function of him losing the house. the dems always suddenly get very bold with their policy wants as soon as they know legislation will never reach their desk. a split house is an establishment democrat dream. they don't have to choose between their voters and donors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, uncle bernard said: this is hilariously untrue. half that party is on tape saying it explicitly. i'm sure that's all fake right? Show documentation that the current Rs in Congress are saying this. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/09/27/false-claim-that-senate-republicans-plan-end-social-security-medicare/ Biden was using a Patty Murray talking point. False then false now. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nailbender Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, uncle bernard said: this is hilariously untrue. half that party is on tape saying it explicitly. i'm sure that's all fake right? hell even biden wants to cut back benefits. his populist economic message right now is simply a function of him losing the house. the dems always suddenly get very bold with their policy wants as soon as they know legislation will never reach their desk. a split house is an establishment democrat dream. they don't have to choose between their voters and donors. Republicans are no different. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle bernard Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Just now, Nailbender said: Republicans are no different. they're worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmodium Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 This narrative is false as Biden himself made clear in the speech. However watching Mike Lee feign incredulity was very entertaining as he was the one whose name was politely withheld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 What trap? No one in this Congress other than Rick Scott, has supported changing SS or Medicare. So when Biden said there were some in Congress (there is one perhaps in Congress - Rick Scott) they let him know he was wrong. He lied to the American people directly with this. And this is applause worthy? The Rs were already on record saying they don't want changes to SS or Medicare. So how is there a trap? mspartMike Lee…Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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