mattramosjr Posted September 15 Posted September 15 Article: https://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sports/college/iowa/wrestling/2026/09/14/iowa-wrestling-jordan-williams-owi-charge/91757384007/?gnt-cfr=1&gca-cat=p&gca-uir=true&gca-epti=z115846p001050c001050e007400v115846d--58--b--58--&gca-ft=49&gca-ds=sophi What is everyone thoughts? Is he still good for u23s? Everytime something looks good for him he messes it up.
LJB Posted September 15 Posted September 15 it would be much easier to write this kid off if i did not know him personally and really like him just as an actually nice and jovial kid who just was dealt a really tough hand early on in life... obviously, there comes a point when your past can not define your future... everyone eventually figures it out... some just take awhile longer than others... 3
Hammerlock3 Posted September 15 Posted September 15 Trying to be tasteful in reference to the above post.....but not in shape, quits, poor teammate, constantly in stupid self-inflicted trouble....hard to like. 2 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
LJB Posted September 15 Posted September 15 when he showed up in iowa last season, pre-season my guy in the room was like, "JW is my boy!!!" 6 months later he was not very well liked by anyone... i can not fault anyone for their opinions on him from afar... it just suks that a genuinely nice kid with that much talent can't get straight... it happens... 2
rsotelo Posted September 15 Posted September 15 This is sad. He has run into these problems for a while now, across a number of programs. It seems like he has no one that is willing to help him transition to being an self sufficient adult. It would be easy to cut him off the team, or keep in in the practice room. Both of those situations are just using the kid. He is not a good influence for the other kids in the program, but Iowa has not been a high character team for a while now. It would be ideal if there were some sort of intervention for this kid and set him straight. Wrestling ends and in a couple of years, he still has to make a life for himself.
MPhillips Posted September 15 Posted September 15 (edited) We discussed this yesterday in another post. https://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sports/college/iowa/wrestling/2026/09/14/iowa-wrestling-jordan-williams-owi-charge/91757384007/?taid=6aa839ad7956c3000133229e&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter This is the second time in a couple years. He has to be finished. Edited September 15 by MPhillips 1 .
GimJustafan Posted September 15 Posted September 15 1 hour ago, mattramosjr said: Article: https://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sports/college/iowa/wrestling/2026/09/14/iowa-wrestling-jordan-williams-owi-charge/91757384007/?gnt-cfr=1&gca-cat=p&gca-uir=true&gca-epti=z115846p001050c001050e007400v115846d--58--b--58--&gca-ft=49&gca-ds=sophi What is everyone thoughts? Is he still good for u23s? Everytime something looks good for him he messes it up. isn't this about his 4 strike coupled with extremely poor academic's
alex1fly Posted September 15 Posted September 15 To be so drunk that you don't take obvious precautions to protect yourself when sleeping off a buzz... dang man. I know going sober is easier said than done but if he doesn't, alcohol may very well kill him or lead him to kill someone accidentally.
Hammerlock3 Posted September 15 Posted September 15 4 hours ago, rsotelo said: This is sad. He has run into these problems for a while now, across a number of programs. It seems like he has no one that is willing to help him transition to being an self sufficient adult. It would be easy to cut him off the team, or keep in in the practice room. Both of those situations are just using the kid. He is not a good influence for the other kids in the program, but Iowa has not been a high character team for a while now. It would be ideal if there were some sort of intervention for this kid and set him straight. Wrestling ends and in a couple of years, he still has to make a life for himself. How do you know no one was willing to help him? Its almost like you made that up so you could get on a soapbox. 6 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
Caveira Posted September 15 Posted September 15 1 minute ago, Hammerlock3 said: How do you know no one was willing to help him? Its almost like you made that up so you could get on a soapbox. I almost said that. I’ll bet several / many tried to help him. 1
ionel Posted September 15 Posted September 15 Just now, Caveira said: I almost said that. I’ll bet several / many tried to help him. It seemed he was doing fine at Little Rock but maybe Arkansas just doesn't have newspapers. 1 .
Caveira Posted September 15 Posted September 15 1 minute ago, ionel said: It seemed he was doing fine at Little Rock but maybe Arkansas just doesn't have newspapers. U saying people helped him at lr and not at Iowa or the reporting is a much bigger thing at Iowa ? 1
ionel Posted September 15 Posted September 15 Just now, Caveira said: U saying people helped him at lr and not at Iowa or the reporting is a much bigger thing at Iowa ? When he left Stilly I thought LR was the perfect place to get help and more attention. When announced Iowa I was worried again. 2 .
Caveira Posted September 15 Posted September 15 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ionel said: When he left Stilly I thought LR was the perfect place to get help and more attention. When announced Iowa I was worried again. I’m sure he got plenty of help at Iowa. Edited September 15 by Caveira 1
ionel Posted September 15 Posted September 15 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Caveira said: I’m sure he got plenty of help at Iowa. If I needed a lift out of town and my only options were JW or AJ I'd jump in the car with JW. Ok ... if the reason I needed to get out of town was an oncoming zombie apocalypse I'd go with AJ. Btw: the help he needs is AA rehab. Edited September 15 by ionel 2 .
Caveira Posted September 15 Posted September 15 (edited) 1 minute ago, ionel said: If I needed a lift out of town and my only options were JW or AJ I'd jump in the car with JW. Ok ... if the reason I needed to get out of town was an oncoming zombie apocalypse I'd go with AJ. Jw has known to be asleep at the wheel. Apparently. jw may get tired after a 3 min drive too. So pick with care Edited September 15 by Caveira
ionel Posted September 15 Posted September 15 Just now, Caveira said: Jw has known to be asleep at the wheel. Apparently AJ has been known to roll cars and destroying them by fire. .
Caveira Posted September 15 Posted September 15 Just now, ionel said: AJ has been known to roll cars and destroying them by fire. Damn rough choice. If the zombies will get ya I would go with the speed. Rough choice
Hammerlock3 Posted September 15 Posted September 15 19 minutes ago, Caveira said: I almost said that. I’ll bet several / many tried to help him. I've turned on the Brands' coaching ability, but I'd bet the farm they tried very hard to help him, possibily still are. 3 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
alex1fly Posted September 15 Posted September 15 (edited) LR was probably a nicer place with a nicer staff, than Iowa City where success is demanded and the staff are old school and prickly. I'm sure there are nice mental health pros in Iowa City (they tend to be caring, touchy feely types) but it doesn't matter if he isn't willing to make big and permanent changes. Being arrested for drunkenness once a year for the past 4 years means he's been an arrestable level of drunk many more times. Sucks for the kid that he can't have a drink without the risk of having 10 more, but some people are wired that way. I have a good buddy like that, and a couple family members... You worry about them and hope they stay alcohol free but they usually don't. Edited September 15 by alex1fly
ionel Posted September 15 Posted September 15 1 minute ago, alex1fly said: You worry about them and hope they stay alcohol free but they usually don't. The only option for that type is rehab and to totally absolutely quit. I've seen it work. The problem is the individual has to recognize/admit they have a problem. Pretty hard to commit to rehab if not willing or encouraged to give up wrestling short term to 100% focus on the rehab. 1 .
MPhillips Posted September 15 Posted September 15 (edited) 1 hour ago, ionel said: When he left Stilly I thought LR was the perfect place to get help You thought that why? 1 hour ago, ionel said: oncoming zombie apocalypse I'd go with AJ. You know he has guns. I wasn't aware we have rehab experts in the forum. Edited September 15 by MPhillips 1 .
MoveCountermove Posted September 15 Posted September 15 50 minutes ago, ionel said: The only option for that type is rehab and to totally absolutely quit. I've seen it work. The problem is the individual has to recognize/admit they have a problem. Pretty hard to commit to rehab if not willing or encouraged to give up wrestling short term to 100% focus on the rehab. My GF is 3 or 4 years sober at this point and she’s very open about it and about what it took to get there and to make a change…it was not nothing, her life fell completely apart before she made the change, lost her children and all until she got clean. I remain puzzled by those who LOVE alcohol, but we all have our vices and mine are equally as bad, so I’m not here judging, just not able to understand fully.
Hammerlock3 Posted September 15 Posted September 15 Don't let your GF watch his match against Zerban... "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
Fletcher Posted September 16 Posted September 16 Tough break - hope we get to see him wrestle this year. Kid's a stud. For the record, I'm typing this into my phone while driving drunk. 1
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