Funny Jason Tsirtsis Factoid

[Hammerlock3]

I don't know why it occurred to me but I ask an AI if anyone scored more team points than match points at NCAAs, and it said no. So I asked about tshirts the year he won and indeed he scored 21 team points, and 15 match points.

[juniorvarsity]

9 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said:

I don't know why it occurred to me but I ask an AI if anyone scored more team points than match points at NCAAs, and it said no. So I asked about tshirts the year he won and indeed he scored 21 team points, and 15 match points.

He beat former champ Maple in the quarters and future champ Houdashelt in the semis, both 2-1 OT. 

Side note, AI can be so bad at wrestling knowledge. I've found Grok to be better than the rest with wrestling, but it's still not quite good enough. My experience, Gemini really can't get it right without interrogating and correcting it, kinda like you did here. It is still fun to question it and massage out the answers you're looking for.

[MPhillips]

2 hours ago, juniorvarsity said:

Side note, AI can be so bad at wrestling knowledge

Folks say this all the time.  Do they only use it because it's easier?

[11986]

13 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said:

I don't know why it occurred to me but I ask an AI if anyone scored more team points than match points at NCAAs, and it said no. So I asked about tshirts the year he won and indeed he scored 21 team points, and 15 match points.

think Lockhart did same in '01. well 16 points scored if my math is right on way to winning championship. 

[Hammerlock3]

3 hours ago, juniorvarsity said:

He beat former champ Maple in the quarters and future champ Houdashelt in the semis, both 2-1 OT. 

Side note, AI can be so bad at wrestling knowledge. I've found Grok to be better than the rest with wrestling, but it's still not quite good enough. My experience, Gemini really can't get it right without interrogating and correcting it, kinda like you did here. It is still fun to question it and massage out the answers you're looking for.

it was grok i used. I avoid gemini because its pretty heavily corrupted by politics. 

[Simpleman424]

2 hours ago, MPhillips said:

Folks say this all the time.  Do they only use it because it's easier?

Yes and it’s gross

[jackwebster]

3 hours ago, MPhillips said:

Folks say this all the time.  Do they only use it because it's easier?

They use it bc all is lost. Or, maybe, all is lost bc they use it.

[Caveira]

Some companies these days have weekly quotas you need to hit on AI prompts or you can get fired.   Pretty gross. 

Edited August 18 by Caveira

[JMill]

On 8/18/2026 at 5:15 PM, Caveira said:

Some companies these days have weekly quotas you need to hit on AI prompts or you can get fired.   Pretty gross. 

I’ve found AI is best for doing unhelpful and unimportant tasks… like making spreadsheets and charts of things you’ve never needed spreadsheets and charts for…

[ionel]

1 minute ago, JMill said:

I’ve found AI is best for doing unhelpful and unimportant tasks… like making spreadsheets and charts of things you’ve never needed spreadsheets and charts for…

... you talking about AI or knownothing?  

[jackwebster]

On 8/18/2026 at 6:15 PM, Caveira said:

Some companies these days have weekly quotas you need to hit on AI prompts or you can get fired.   Pretty gross. 

Ugghh ffs

[jackwebster]

19 hours ago, JMill said:

making spreadsheets and charts of things you’ve never needed spreadsheets and charts for…

And, as the quota post suggests, this list grows daily. So, yeah, when you get more emails by 10 am than you could read in 24 hours, I understand the temptation to look at that summary. 

But when we do, we consent to our own subjugation. I don't think this is overstatement. 

 

 

[scourge165]

I asked ChatGTP because... well, that's the point of the thread;

You have to give it some parameters. It's only as useful as your instructions(and even then... it's limited in it's usefulness). 
But;
 

Wrestler	Year	Place	Match points	Team pts	Status
Jason Tsirtsis	2014	1st	15	21	QUALIFIES +6
Mark Ellis	2009	1st	19	21	QUALIFIES +2
Zach Rey	2011	1st	low enough to qualify	> match pts	QUALIFIES
Darian Cruz	2017	1st	21	21	TIE — does not qualify
Don Whipp	1993	2nd	at least 19 before/including final	below that	No
Greg Haladay	1990	2nd	about 18	below that	No
Brett Bourne	1990	5th	comfortably > team pts	—	No

[Hammerlock3]

when i see 5th i think we're getting into territory where i wonder if they pinned someone from bottom or something. 

[dragit]

On 8/17/2026 at 8:21 PM, Hammerlock3 said:

I don't know why it occurred to me but I ask an AI if anyone scored more team points than match points at NCAAs, and it said no. So I asked about tshirts the year he won and indeed he scored 21 team points, and 15 match points.

The ironic thing is that he had that reputation after those NCAAs, but he wrestled a terrific aggressive match right before that to win Big Tens.  I always assumed that because he won NCAAs in such low scoring matches, that, like a general who always tries to replicate his greatest victory, going forward after that he (my sense is also with his brother's counsel) decided to keep wrestling that way.  But he showed at Big Tens that wasn't his only skill.

 

[GreatWhiteNorth]

On 8/18/2026 at 5:15 PM, Caveira said:

Some companies these days have weekly quotas you need to hit on AI prompts or you can get fired.   Pretty gross. 

Some poster has made an argument that some would need to "hit on AI prompts". Pretty gross and pathetic poster.

[Hammerlock3]

9 hours ago, dragit said:

The ironic thing is that he had that reputation after those NCAAs, but he wrestled a terrific aggressive match right before that to win Big Tens.  I always assumed that because he won NCAAs in such low scoring matches, that, like a general who always tries to replicate his greatest victory, going forward after that he (my sense is also with his brother's counsel) decided to keep wrestling that way.  But he showed at Big Tens that wasn't his only skill.

 

honestly, given my previous attitude towards him and that run, at this point its more interesting to me that he won big tens that year. 

[Caveira]

6 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said:

Some poster has made an argument that some would need to "hit on AI prompts". Pretty gross and pathetic poster.

This post doesn’t make much sense 

[GreatWhiteNorth]

16 hours ago, Caveira said:

This post doesn’t make much sense 

Interesting... how not?