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he was never a top 5 guy in the ncaa

I would have just stated that 2020 didn't count for eligibility since there was no post season and simultaneously reinforced that four years of post season eligibility is what matters

Nick Lee got 4 years. Lugo, Pletcher, Moore, Hall, Joseph (and others I am forgetting) got short changed.

Despite how credible the Starocci accusations seem I would think there would need to be charges at a minimum before the NCAA got involved.

And... back to the thread topic. The Trump administration lied (big surprise) - the US didn't "obliterate" Iran's nuclear program. Not even close. With so many lies and so much misdirection it's becoming difficult to follow what the he** is going on in DC. And the sad part is, that is exactly what the Trump administration intended. They don't want us to follow it, they don't want transparency, they want to keep the US citizens in the dark. Let me give you this example. Remember the Qatar jet we debated here for weeks? We can no longer debate it - because it is now deemed classified by Hegseth (Trump's unqualified Pentagon head - who is a moron, but loyal Trump follower.)

Yeah...but it still happened...even if it's stupid. To go down this road, Hendrickson's title over Stevenson doesn't count. And what do you do with Brooks or Nick Lee? Guys who were 1 or 2 seeds and had just 1 loss each(which they'd avenged). How would you have done it? If you lost the ability to compete in the tournament in '20, you get an extra year, but no more than 4? So Brooks still gets the 4 and Starocci and he are done the same year...conversely, Lugo, Pletcher, Moore...Lee, they get another year?

Are you just as dumb as Spanky? Let me spell it out for you half-wit. The current President isn't 'history.' He is actively engaged in making decisions, policy, and mucking up other people's lives on a grand scale. THIS is why the current President's actions are relative and pertinent for active discussion VS retired Presidents. But if you're IQ is low enough, feel free to jump all over any retired politician. We're used to it. It has gotten this bad.

No, your logic was SO stupid. It was after the Iowa duel and you thought because Ferrari ran from him for 7 minutes that you were justified in "pre-emptively," keeping him off Mt Rushmore and saying he stalled...when up until that point, he had bonus points in every match but one.

This year, yes. Next year, no - it'll be here in another 6 months or so. (Did you have a point? Maybe next time, try to make it on your first try, Spanky.)

You do understand that medical records are personal, right? You can't possibly be dumb enough to not know that. So - given that obvious understanding - nobody "hid" anything from anybody. Bid just doesn't want to share. It's OK. Let me put it another way, Trump declined to reveal any medical records about his ear after the Penn shooting. None. Zero. Nothing. Was he "hiding" something? Maybe, maybe not. But those are personal medical records. He's not obligated to. He didn't want to share - which is OK. Like all the other Conspiracy Theorists Morons - JimmySpanks just doesn't get it. He just keeps peddling conspiracies like a thoughtless little follower looking for a pat on the head.

Couldn't care less about the TUE nonsense. So many athletes use Adderall or something similar for ADHD and it's almost always BS. Simone Biles did as well. If he took something that's banned, that's different.

So Kem isn't runner up.

This is a kink I have yet to explore. Take me there

Of what? 3 Weeks ago Bartlett accusing Starocci of being a rapist?

I think that's insane. Your star Wrestler being accused of rape and then you're OTHER star Wrestler being juiced? That's a LOT different than Gillman being a no-show for really stringent testing rules mostly while at Okie St and...then Snyder is bad, but he was an OSU guy so that's less related to the University. I mean, technically Brooks is as well, but he represented the University for a while. Morally, it's Starocci, Snyder, Brooks and then I don't know if Gillman was even immoral, but again, I don't even include him. As far as PSU should be upset, it's Starocci and Brooks. Even then it's MOSTLY Starocci as it was while he was a student.

I’m off to bed boss. Fine the article and read that tho. Details are in it

Yeah...I NEVER heard anything from Bartlett about Starocci being a rapist. The bullying, I still haven't heard about that, but I don't spend much time on Wrestling Twitter. I don't know what you want from me here, I feel like the only reasonable thing to do at this point is reserving judgement because I hadn't heard anything about the sexual assault(though more likely believing the girls). I don't believe Bartlett said anything about sexual assault and if he did, I missed it. I was defending "them" when you were talking about Gillman. What are you looking for here from me?

Of course not. Maybe OSU, Okie State, ASU...PERHAPS, the Cali Talent. Michigan, Illinios, Minnesota and MAYBE Wisconsin... they'd all have to really have some big money donors get invested in the program. Basically a B1G school or a few others. NC State, Va Tech are a couple others. But "replicate it?" MAYBE Ohio State.

I guess the 5th title should be void but if I was making the rules I'd take away the first one...

If there's any evidence that the staff knew about it, I want them to be ineligible from the post-season for at least 1 year and I want all wins as a team vacated and... I don't know if you can vacate Starocci's Indvidual title, but IF it's true, he should go to jail. I just read about it. The "Grooming," I think that's tossed around way too easily. 23, 18... But rape is rape. If Starocci raped a girl, there are others and there's ANY evidence the staff knew, that's what I want done. And maybe PART of that is because I do respect PSU, because Cael is Cael and because they represent the Wrestling community so much, but...this is a BIG deal, especially if more victims come forward. There is no indication the staff DID know(beyond the theft and they couldn't prove that)...but if there anything there, that's what I want.

advocating the burning of white biz seems pretty racist perhaps even worse than loving the smell of it

how many times did you attack trump during the last 4 years? or bush or reagan

Another thing. The alleged theft of a watch. An expensive one. It wasn’t on camera. What kind of watch thief steals something as big as a watch and simply just doesn’t put it in his pocket and walk out of the room. #exoneratehim

Clearly he's pro 2x cheater