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Read he’s a U.S. citizen.
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Hillary acting weird again : https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8kJoJ58/
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As part of a project to recreate all the tournament scores by building up for the individual match to the team total, it is obvious that there is a key missing component: team point deductions. So, now I am trying to back into them by assuming that any point total differential between my method and the publicly available scores is attributable to team point deductions (with a single caveat). Using that method I think there have been a total of 64 team points deducted in the 9 tournaments between 2016 and 2025. In three cases it looks like a team had 2 team point deductions in a single tournament. The ill-mannered 64 are (sorry about the rough formatting):
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Pretty obvious, I’d say.
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Christian Pyles most disingenuous take.
BruceyB replied to BruceyB's topic in International Wrestling
To be clear, your examples are.. Ben bumping up a weight class and beating beat a returning national finalist (the score was 5-1 with 30 seconds left.. Ben cut him with looking to score another takedown.. he gave one up at the end and the match finished a deceiving 5-4) and Ben making the Olympic team at a non-ideal weight class 1 year after graduating college.. Both examples show him failing to beat the top guys zero times. Again, who are these "top guys" you speak of? -
The 3-Point Takedown: Friend or Foe?
CHROMEBIRD replied to Wrestleknownothing's topic in College Wrestling
I've wondered if takedown scoring zones would add more excitement or at least mitigate a little bit of stalling and fleeing. Setup the mat as 3 concentric circles with takedowns in the bullseye zone (center mat) worth 2 points, then 3 points for takedowns in the middle ring, and 4 points at the outermost ring with continuation for OOB. Or maybe the points should be flipped to award more points in the center? Idk. But my thinking is that a wrestler sitting on a lead will want to minimize risk and not hang out at the edge of the mat, and force them to wrestle near the center rather than flee. No idea if this would work, I'm sure someone else here could game this out better than I can, but just some food for thought. -
Yeah, that USC graphic also has some hidden fees, for example season parking is complimentary for the top 3 tiers, but the middle tiers (4-6) pay an additional $1,000-3,000 if they want to park their car. Tiers 7-9 aren't offered parking. California is supposed to have an "all in" pricing law now but that's just the seat + "required contribution" price; stuff like requiring a certain membership donor level just to qualify to buy season tickets, parking (since it's technically optional), etc. are still separate. I guess buying expensive season tickets might be a flex to some people, but even the pricing at lesser P4 programs seem a little out of step reality. That's a lot of money for 7 or so football games. I think the reason why the pricing is split between the seating and contribution is because of the revenue calculation as y'all say. The salary/spending cap is based on generated revenue. The contributions are basically fundraising and are to keep the athletic dept's lights on.
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So was Rudy right ? She looks like something is wrong.
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Revenue categories for calculating the 22% are: ticket sales, input revenue from participation in away games, media rights revenues, NCAA distributions and grants; non-media conference distributions; direct revenues from participation in football bowl game, conference distribution of non-media and non-football bowls and football bowl revenues; and athletics department revenues from sponsorships, royalties, licensing agreements, advertisements and sponsorships. @fishbane, I think you are probably right, the gift is meant to help pay for the 22% while not being included in future percentage calculations. The 22% will already have been calculated before this gift. It is then kept at the level for three years with a 4% elevator. After three years it is recalculated. I am assuming these gifts are not considered royalties.
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The 3-Point Takedown: Friend or Foe?
2001Hokie replied to Wrestleknownothing's topic in College Wrestling
Certainly biased on one of these, but the finals of Henson vs Lovett and Robinson vs Spratley are prime examples of dancing on the OB line not leading to stall calls. Just enough acting like you might engage and false-circling to show you're 'active.' -
The 3-Point Takedown: Friend or Foe?
Caveira replied to Wrestleknownothing's topic in College Wrestling
Woo hoo! -
Good news. This sob trash bag was arrested at the Mexican boarder. Elpidio Reyna The monster who was throwing cinder blocks at police vehicles. They found him in sineloa. Wonder what he was doing there. He will be in a cage soon where he belongs. this guy —> https://ktla.com/news/local-news/southern-california-man-arrested-for-assault-on-federal-officers/amp/
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The 3-Point Takedown: Friend or Foe?
Wrestleknownothing replied to Wrestleknownothing's topic in College Wrestling
As someone who is working on rescoring every tournament from the match up, I am #teamcaveira on this one. - Today
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You're the AD: give the bag to a coach or a wrestler? 💰💰💰
fishbane replied to CHROMEBIRD's topic in College Wrestling
Perhaps another interesting way to look at this issue is through the career of Cael Sanderson since he is both the GOAT wrestler and a GOAT coach. Was he closer to winning a team title as a wrestler or a head coach at ISU? The same is true of Dan Gable, but he coached and wrestled at two different places so less variables are controlled. At ISU with Sanderson as a wrestler they placed 4th, 2nd, 6th, 2nd. They also had 6 national champs and 16 AAs. In his three years as a head coach ISU was similarly good. They finished 2nd, 5th, and 3rd with 2 national champs and 15 AAs. That's more individual national titles/year with the Sanderson the wrestler and more AAs/year with Sanderson the coach. Team finishes are very close. The same best finish (2nd) and median (3rd) with a slightly better mean. The teams with Sanderson the wrestler were probably a little better with higher team point totals even accounting for scoring differences. His senior year they had three champs and his freshman year might have been the best. They had 109.5 points and lost by only 6.5 team points. Three ISU wrestlers lost overtime finals matches that year including one to an Iowa wrestler. Iowa won the title so if that OT match had gone the other way ISU wins. Still the closest to winning a title might have been 2007. They finished 2nd to Minnesota 9.5 points back, but the Gophers only scored 98 team points. Looking at Gable ISU finished 2nd, 1st, and 1st with him on the roster. They had 20 AAs and 9 national champs those three years. They year they finished 2nd they had three champs and were 2 points back. In his first three years as the head coach at Iowa the Hawkeyes were similarly good. Gable took over a team that had just won the team title and they went 3rd, 1st, 1st under him. They had 17 AAs and 3 national champs in that time frame. It's unclear If the start of Sanderson and Gables coaching careers exceeded the team accomplishments when they were wrestlers. Its more of a guess how this would go if they had wrestled/coached at a small program. -
Why did they teach square dancing in gym class?
El Luchador replied to Tripnsweep's topic in Non Wrestling Topics
I don't think that's an accurate statement. You do know he had a half black daughter. -
That is wild. You could be paying 30x the ticket price in gifts at the highest tiers. On the other hand it looks like there are more no contribution tickets available at USC. I checked a few other teams (Wisconsin, Ohio State, JMU) and they all seem to have a similar thing to PSU, but not as crazy as USC. The whole system is bizarre. It's like Comcast is selling the tickets, but instead of junk fees it's junk gifts because they are non-profits. In a lot of cases it is literally the government doing this nonsense. At least USC is a private corporation. My understanding is that the house settlement allows teams to share up to $20.5 million with student athletes. This was calculated by 22% of the average revenue of the teams in the Power 5. I think ticket sales, but not donations are used in the revenue calculation. That makes some sense when you are getting one time gifts for a new wrestling room/stadium/whatever, but if tickets are sold at below market rates and 75% of the stadium is forced to donate 20-3,000% of the ticket price it fundamentally changes the meaning of the calculation. How many of those people would donate the same amount of money without the ticket? Small market teams might have a larger incentive to hide this income to limit the spending of the big market teams. In the end if doesn't really matter because the rich teams are all spending more than that through NIL as it stands. They are simultaneously hiding ticket revenue in donations and hiding player salaries in NIL payments. It must be such a mess to coordinate vs just running a traditional professional sports team.
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Real American Freestyle
Voice of the Quakers replied to Husker_Du's topic in International Wrestling
Chuck Mangione? The world of yacht rock mourns. https://variety.com/2025/music/obituaries-people-news/chuck-mangione-dead-feels-so-good-jazz-horn-player-1236469147/ -
Still waiting on the big one. Have my best bottle of bourbon waiting.
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The 3-Point Takedown: Friend or Foe?
Ragu replied to Wrestleknownothing's topic in College Wrestling
To contrast, I’d like the rules to change every year -
Wow. Ozzy, Theo Huxtable, and the Hulkster. These things really do come in 3s.
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This team is tough as nails, as per usual. I think we medal every weight
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I had some friends in common with him. He may have been one of the more mild mannered wrestlers compared to some other wrestling guys of his time, but he still lived a full life.
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Why Is DOJ Meeting With Ghislane Maxwell??
ionel replied to red viking's topic in Non Wrestling Topics
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Too many roids and other drugs