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Unions represent groups of workers for purpose of negotiating pay, conditions and benefits. Period. Anybody that tries to portray them as completely separate is an idiot.

A touch off-topic but the point is...D2/D3 added interest and variables that made the NCAA's even more interesting. Article written for last months AWN.... My, How Things Have Changed My how things have changed! My time frame reference is 1968-1984, which I believe was the Golden Era of wrestling. That’s when college wrestling was the most healthy, robust, and deep. There were lots of opportunities to wrestle collegiately, more intangibles, and rules that apparently offered more pinning opportunities. That 16 year time span averaged 63 falls/13 OT’s per tourney vs 32 falls/26 OT’s per tourney for the last 16 years on the championship side of the bracket. My, how things have changed. There were no tech falls, no video reviews, no bricks, no grad school competitors, no 7th year seniors, no Olympic redshirts, no transferring without penalty, no choice to avoid mat wrestling, no “cheap tilts,” no touch falls, individual dual matches could end in a draw, and for years you could only wrestle back if you lost to a semifinalist or finalist. Matches were 2-3-3 vs the present 3-2-2. Overtime was 1-1-1. Here is a very small sampling of the scores from that period. Cleo McGlory (U of Okla) 21-4 in ’68, Steve Dildine (Alabama) 27-3 in ‘70, Don Rohn (Clarion) 26-6 in ’73, Gary Breece (U of Okla) 24-2 in 74, Nabil Guketlov (Montclair St.) 26-9 in ‘75, Mark Churella (Mich) 34-4 in ’77, Shawn Whitcomb (Mich St.) 30-7 in ’79, Charlie Heard (Univ Tenn-Chatt) 32-12 in ‘83, Joe Gibbons (Iowa St) 32-0 and Melvin Douglas (Univ of Okla) 35-5 in ’84. That’s a lot of wrestling, fans loved it, and those guys refused to be pinned! Why are those kinds of scores are no longer allowed? My, how things have changed. The top 2 finishers, plus 2 wild cards in D2 and the D3 NCAA Championships (college division prior to ’74) were invited to compete in the D1 NCAA until ’92, and it made a difference. Consider this abbreviated list of D2/D3 wrestlers who stood at the top of podium in d1: Rich Sanders (Portland St.), Stan Dziedzic (Slippery Rock), Wade Schalles (Clarion), Joe Gonzales (CSU-Bakersfield) Carlton Haselrig (Pitt-Johnstown 3x D2/D1 NCAA Champ) and D3 NCAA Champ Ken Mallory (Montclair St.). The powers that be fixed that in 1992. Go away, you have your own tournament! How different would the individual D1 results or the team scores have been, post ’92, if undefeated (131-0) 4x D2 NCAA champion Joey Davis (Notre Dame (OH), or any of the other 3x D2/D3 champions and the wild cards competed? Freshman and multiple time NCAA champions are not unique in a field of 78 or so. There were four freshman champs from ’68 to ’84 (approximately 350 schools), 13 in the last 16 years (approximately 77 schools), and 21 total since ’85. In ’78 they awarded 6 AA’s (1.65%) from a total field of 363. Now they award 8 AA’s (10.39%) from a total field of 77. Perhaps limit AA to top 6 or even top 3 or 4. Though largely no fault of their own, the estimated number of college wrestling programs at all collegiate levels has dwindled from 777 in 1972 to 273 total programs in 2025. Restricting the NCAA to only D1 since ‘92, along with the progressive rules changes, has diminished the sport. Wouldn’t allowing D2/D3, Junior College, and even NAIA into D1 add more suspense, depth, breadth, excitement, interest, and viewership and unite the entire wrestling community? There are some positive changes in the current rules. Riding time in OT has value and eliminates supposed unbiased officials from deciding victors via Referees Decision. Another positive change is the Double Elimination bracket. This type of consolation wrestle-back offers a truer outcome for those wrestlers eliminated in the championship bracket, and every single competitor other than the finalists receive a chance to come back and place. And probably the biggest bright spot today is that NCAA wrestling is televised on BTN, ESPN and other conference networks instead of only ABC Wide World of Sports as a 10 minute, once-a-year, heavily edited, side note. That has added to the amount of money wrestlers now command in college, and how nice to see a financial reward FINALLY for so much hard work in a sport that has few equals as far as physical challenges and the amount of work it takes to be an NCAA champion. My how things have changed.

They got you guys at 12, getting close..

Which is a ridiculous understatement of the garbage pile that Reddit has become. It's not about an occasional 'slip through' - it's that it has become a dumpster fire of consistently bad-to-horrible information. Wikipedia, on the other hand, is on a completely different level. It's never been anywhere near perfect - but wiki's will never be, by design. It's solidly useful, but as is advised on any and all internet web sites, be cautious and think carefully before blindly believing what you read. Much of it is wrong. In a nutshell, yes - all AI's are trained on internet data. And are therefore exposed to much garbage. Which is why filtering is an important part of the training process. And, as of right now, that filtering isn't terribly good either. AI is still a work in progress that is consistently making giant strides. Where we land with AI in a year or so, it's anybody's guess.

On the contrary, it doesn't take much for you to post that I'm somehow angered. When I'm nowhere near close. It's like others have said. You really do live in a weird world of your own making. If that works for you - cool. But you might want to consider reality as another option. Maybe give it a try.

Trump is fixing it? How can you be confident of that. Kind of like he'd end the Russia Ukraine war on his 1st day? OK. You keep believing that. If you've got faith, that's just what you got. From where I sit, Trump hasn't fixed anything. All we hear is lies that he's done any of the sort. Ukraine war is in a very bad spot, Gaza war is no better, inflation in the US is off the hook bad and looks to be getting worse, the tariffs are a miserably bad experiment, and the middle east is a much bigger fire than ever now that Trump sent US Air Force bombers to "obliterate" Iran's nuclear capability (even though, after all Trump's lies, it only mildly affected their progress.) You keep thinking Trump is fixing it, and you keep believing in the Easter Bunny.

good info - thanks CC

None of that is accurate. If private charities give them that, then that is a different thing. Which I know happens because there are charitable organizations that help immigrants.

His dad, KC, is the head coach at Embry Riddle and was a 2x NQ for Boise State.

Are kidneys included in the Deloitte review?

Good grief. The flights and hotels are definitely true. Maybe the phones were Android and not i. No doubt on medical and parole. He left out free college tuition. But sure prove that no one received any of these benefits.

A lot of words for whatever man

Writing in all caps or commenting from your other account will not make you any more correct. Labor representatives are typically elected from the union membership to represent the members. They are both employees and representatives. Here is the leadership of the police union for the city that is the topic of this thread. Which one isn't a police officer?

Did Obama follow the law when doing so? Yes. If not, they rectified the situation hastily. That you have a hard time understanding that means you’re either not intellectually honest(my guess) or not equipped to have the conversation. wWhen in the history of America was it ok for masked agents of the government to arrest people, some of them citizens, for the crime of not being a citizen and have no repercussions? Answer 45&47. The reason you’re rooting for a strong man is that you don’t want the burden of having to think for yourself. It’s messy I get it. You want them to punish the people you think should be punished. But for what? That’s the thing. You don’t even know. So you listen to dear leader and get mad at the people they tell you to get mad at. Cuz nothing unifies morons like a common enemy. Meanwhile they get rich before some of them inevitably go to jail. Which is how it always ends. Your station in life changes not one bit. But you’re convinced that you made a difference by making sure others couldn’t reach your level of success. Building is so much more rewarding. I recommend it. Beats being a bigot or a troll or both.

Other than k-12 school, which was something that famously liberal President Reagan pushed for, none of that is true.

UNION REPS ARE NOT 100% OFFICERS FROM THE DEPARTMENT THEY REPRESENT. WRONG AGAIN

You’ve been proven wrong three times already. Why don’t you admit that then I respond to this stupid comment.

Regular Americans are tired of the shyte

This all started with you blaming Democrats for defund the police and vilifying police which caused a police shortage and made positions hard to fill. I found it odd to blame Democrats instead of the bad police behaviour caught on video. You then blamed some bad police behaviour (corruption and protecting bad apples) on police unions. Again this is a strange distinction to try and make. Police Unions in this country are in most cases locally organized. When talking about a police union the union leadership are most often officers in the department they represent. They are voted into those positions by members that are 100% officers from the department they represent. They are local police. If the police union is to blame for corruption in a particular area then the rank and file police officers in that locality are to blame. This isn't some huge nationwide organization like NEA, the teamsters, or united steelworkers we are talking about.

These two vids I think were for those surburban’s who think crime is just fine in Chicago and other crime ridden cities

Ya. Let’s let the cartels run gang busters on the world. Their power and corruption surely won’t spread. Just leave em alone maybe they will turn out to be misunderstood and really good guys. All that rapey rapey and killing of everyone who opposes them was just a phase. I bet they just need therapy and a few weeks of pto and some good good rest. They will let their ties to illegal gang immigration and infiltrating us cities go away too. Probably right?

I like to stay in my lane. Control what I can control and let other people control their own back yard. It's a good general rule to live by

ahem. maybe you didn't hear me when I said MCKINSEY MATH. leave the Little D in the "Big" 4 out of this

57 RBY isn't going to medal. Stop it. Spencer is win or bust, and honestly I feel for the guy in that regard in a way that is just brutal. Imagine being the absolute best in the world, and it's just doing your job. After losing the biggest match of your life.... again. We do not appreciate Spencer Lee. I do not want him to become the Kolat of this vintage. 61 Pump the brakes. Let's be happy with a win before we declare gold. 65 If Woods wins a match or two, it's a success. IL is rooting for you! 70 Gomez is being touted as a medal favorite... unless he puts himself on his back or gets gassed. Again, IL is behind you but the copium is already getting strong. Duke? See Forrest and last sentence. 74 Carr is a strong medal threat. Slick as it gets and he has found F-U mode it feels like. That's a good thing. 79 I have literally no clue what to expect, other than we will reflect on these results much more positively in 2028 than we will in a couple weeks. 86 Zahid is a medal and finals threat. The question everyone wants to know is if Taylor has patched up the gaps. 92 Same as 79, Hidlay and Haines can go nuts and win world titles or BBQ but until 2028 these two weights are, well, weighted less. 97 Taz will destroy everyone in his path. How do I know this? Because he did so at worlds last year on a surgically repaired bum shoulder, ya know... the kind of injury that instantly ends wrestling careers. Snyder will either silver or bronze depending if he has the same half as Sadulaev. 125 Zare will beat the ever loving shiit out of Hendrickson if they meet up. And you can check my receipts everyone knows I love Pindrickson like he loves Trump. But there are levels and chonky Gable is not Zare. Medal likely, finals possibly depending on draw.