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It felt like to me when Yianni was putting the pace on PJ before he wore out (Which I think is largely to PJ's credit) Pj did not have a ton for him I see Mitchell doing that if not more prolifically just being bigger than Yianni. This is of course looking at that match in the next what 8 months by the time they are wrestling each other for the Olympic spot in 2028 it's probably a completely different story.

I don't know, I'm just asking as I wasn't watching CNN but did have a news station on at the time. The anchor was taking in information as it was coming in through an ear piece, stating its not confirmed but......for instance one of the reports that came into the earpiece was that the shooter killed himself but the made sure to say that was not confirmed yet. Is it possible this is what happened with the 'possibly white'. Again I don't know, just asking the question. If they said possibly white while at the same time showing this picture, then yeah definitely not a good thing to do. If not and it was the same process of taking in reports from the site.....well that's something that happens all the time throughout all news networks and not anything for anyone to get excited about, particularly if they corrected once they had confirmed reports. Some networks continue with lies and false reporting even after confirmed reports.

Mixed bag on three competing entities. I think the competition is outstanding and should push one to the top, however I wonder if wrestling is too niche and that they will cannibalize each other a bit especially since media seems to pick one or the other to promote rather than promoting all of them.

Yes; I acknowledged that this was a victory for him. One small tariff victory after 6 months and even this appears to be falling apart. Could be back down to a big zero for the feeble old man.

any chance you are from youngstown?

gimme albright and perry

would be awesome to see if he can start a Stillwater Esque pipeline for missou.

He was extremely competitive with Knox, and I believe it was first match off the scale at the open. I think he has an incredibly high ceiling, but I also think the Raney's will benefit immensely from being in that room and if that is the case I am not sure where he fits in aside from redshirt years? That being said I firmly believe okst has the best room in the country from 125-149 yes I know PSU has lilledahl,blaze,ono,svn,nick lee,zain,Gillman but Ramirez,Jax,Zinkin,Raney's,Fix,RBY,Swiderski,Sakamoto,Figs,Spratley,Hughes,Jamison,Vega I think there is something to be said about getting a ton of different feels of really good guys who also have different styles.

Does this ^^^ picture make it more possible they are the same?

If there is no pic, then why say he is possibly white? you have no idea but spew forth a possibility. It doesn't work and they got caught. They have acknowledged it according to you but did they offer a retraction? I don't know. But they wanted so much for it to be a white guy that without even seen a pic they said it was possibly a white guy. In your geology classes that you taught, I'm sure you said it was perfectly acceptable to identify a rock a person had not seen by saying this unknown mineral was possibly quartz. I have not seen you and I could say you are possibly an asian cheese head. I could be right. I could be wrong. What is the harm in saying it if I COULD be right? That is your position and that is the wrong position. If you don't know, you don't say. That seems to be the way the world works in general. mspart

They had a pic.

Darryl Peterson ISU 1985. 5 PFs in 5:32. Finished 5th at unlimited. I think he is the overall Gorriaran at NCAAs. If I'm off on that it's because there are multiple Petersons in that bracket and they wrested each other.

in addition to Taylor I think there are other guys who could have reasonably won OW over Strobel. For starters, the 3 champs from Clarion: 134 champ Rohn won from the 8 seed. No bonus wins other than a 26-6 1st rd win over an unseeded wrestler, but he did beat the 1,4, and 2 seeds to win it all. 167 champ Simpson won from the 4 seed. Started off with two pins over unseeded guys, then beat the 5 in OT, 12-5 over the 1, and 7-3 in finals over the 2 seed. and of course 158 champ Wade Schalles. 4 pins, albeit 3 over unseeded guys, and a 9-2 finals win over the 2 seed. Schalles was OW the year before, maybe there was some sentiment to not give it to same guy 2 years in a row?

But he caved. He is a caver. Talks big and then caves. GB and EU both sign trade deals that lower the tariffs they charge on US goods and raise tariffs on GB/EU goods. My preference would be 0% tariffs but GB/EU don't want that. I don't know why. I'd rather have a Mars bar than a Milky Way bar anyday. mspart

The only quintuple pinfeller who did not win a title that I can find is Gary Albright, but he took 15:34 to Taylor's 13:52.

It's perfectly fine to say they "may" be the same color when you don't even have a pic of both of them yet. The wingers really getting their panties in a bundle over this one.

cis white possible woman and cis black/non white possible man. i think that is the proper way to say it. mspart

His performance wasn't only outstanding It was historic. One cannot score more team points than he did. A wrestler has only maxed that out a handful of times. He was also the Gorrarian of all NCAA tournaments up to that point. By that I mean at the 1973 tournament he had 5 pins in 13:52. No one had more that 5 pins and no one had 5 pins in less time. Since 1973 someone has scored 5 pin at NCAAs in less time, but that person didn't win the title.

I heard he was Making Gold Great Again!

Is the individual on the left ^^^ the same color as the individual on the right ^^^ and is it ok to say individual?

I think the hypothetical there was that PJ Duke could be that “soul”

Well sure but dont try to lump us all in with Wkn.

If they had said that he was one of these minorities and happened to be white, I can guarantee that the wingers wouldn't have started this thread. THAT'S MY POINT. The racism of the wingers stinks to high heaven. CNN updated/corrected their description of the shooter and even shows a huge pic of his face on their latest version of the article describing him. They provided whatever info they had at the time and updated it. They've done fine.

Many of EU nations don't appear to be on board with this so this one small victory for Trump (finally after 6 months) may not go through at all. This entire tariff deal plan for Trump is turning out to be a disaster. His attempts to bully other nations into submission are pretty much all failing, just like his health, cognitive abilities, and efforts to distance himself from Epstein.

Six months ago, he could’ve grabbed an article from any one of the major news outlets. That’s not a good sign.