Dogbone

I don't think I follow the logic of finalize a deal (which includes negotiating financial terms) before someone enters the portal is some how not poaching because they asked you first, especially when after entering the portal Okie St/DT couldn't even get a meeting.

Didn't it also include an emphasis on pins and sportsmanship?

I would guess that 2 of those 3 are Ben's. Maybe Cael went 2 for Carter 1 for MM?

The participation trophy generation wants more trophies, who saw that coming.

Brock Herman - Ohio State 157 is entering the portal per Willie.

I wouldn't change anything Barr is doing, even if he is "undersized"

Could be. I just like thinking of the greatest college match of all time, Andrew Alton v. Eric Grajales and lumping Dylan in with his brother.

Best gas tank = Alton Brothers

It just goes to show you they can't develop talent. If you aren't good after 1 year, SEE YA!

Wait, some of you believe every PSU commit when they say they had offers for more money elsewhere?? Let me guess, you also believe Welsh really didn't have any contact with PSU before entering the portal and Willie saying "PSU done deal" was just a lucky guess.

Well... because he won an Olympic Medal... (How is that for a circular argument?)

Couldn't and didn't are two different things.

College Wrestling by its nature results in monopolies as well even with regulations. In the last 30 years, every championship team has repeated at least once with the only exceptions being Minnesota in 2007 and Ohio State in 2015 to not win back to back titles. (Iowa in 2021 as well but they were the overwhelming favorite in 2020). You could also argue the RTCs and the HWC (pre RTCs) were unregulated with regard to the impact on the NCAA team.

I would also add the NCAA Wrestling Tournament is the greatest event in all of wrestling and you only get 4 chances (usually) to ever do it. Ono won a world title in front of 1,000 people and took one look at NCAAs and said, I want to do THAT without every having wrestled a folkstyle match. Heck, as Dake and Gillman showed, you don't even have to wrestle at PSU to go train at NWLC and achieve world level success. If these guys want to go be room guys and be apart of a winning team, then good for them. I hope it gets them whatever they want in life and they don't have any regrets.

Then we would just go back to slush funds and bag men to exceed the salary cap. At the end of the day, it's better if its a free market. A lot of the issues we are seeing will work themselves out over a longer period of time.

What's the best way to get a job post-graduation (the whole point of going to college)? If you are leaving wresting, it probably doesn't matter. If you want to be a wrestling coach, being a multiple time AA may look better than PSU room guy. If Mikey Labriola or Tony Cassioppi went to PSU to just get better at wrestling, are they currently assistant coaches in the B1G?

We just watched it. PSU won 2 matches. The other schools top guys won the other 8.

PSU fans really bending themselves in a pretzel trying to distinguish Iowa's poaching from their own. Deal was done before he entered the portal = poaching. "No babe, its not cheating because she threw herself at me, what I am supposed to do, tell her I like me situation at home, not possible"

Seriously?

It was one line in a 13 minute/interview video... I have no clue why PSU fans/former wrestlers want to keep talking about it. The sooner this dies the better I would think. I don't know why the tiniest of smoke keeps getting oxygen from the team allegedly accused.

Is AJ being in your corner a good thing or bad thing when discussing steroid allegations....

My take is that it was an accusation and not a general possible/probable comment.

There weren't message boards during Iowa's run (that I am aware of) so it's tough to judge as I don't know how fans communicated except in person. But, anytime an Iowa wrestler lost at NCAAs, the entire arena cheered except for the Iowa section. It felt like everyone was against Iowa.

It's tough to argue with guys who have actually wrestled in the tournament:

^^^THIS^^^ BUT even the Greatest Mind in Wrestling's Crystal Ball has Nebraska's 7 returning qualifiers to score less points than they achieved this year with only 1 guy placing higher than his 2025 finish.