jackwebster

My point is not about the what that he might "air out." It's about the salesmanship of this what and our willingness to gobble it up.

don't like the bro-ese, but yeah. then again, the point is to drive traffic, and bc we are enslaved by the algorithm it will work. we're a bunch of marks.

for more on this breaking development, we're gonna check-in with our Chief Libelous Cliche officer Chad Stacy: "You know Kurt, I can't help but think he's a socopath."

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maybe not use terms like "beetlebrain"?

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Brutal couple of weeks for our sport, so I'm dissociating. What wrestling shoe is this $600 pair of Issey Miyake's built from?

If either story is true, then both are blameles; but, I doubt that either one made a blameless mistake. In any event, both have the responsibility for atoning. . . blameless or not.

I thought about this, too. Since we don't know what Sanderson did with what information, I won't speculate. I will point out that 2025 is not 2016. So even if all the particulars are the same,we shouldn't expect similar consequences.

This was my experience. Exhibit A: We were riding home from the Keystone Classic in a couple of 15 passenger vans. We stopped at a conscience store, and guys started walking out with the weirdest sh#t: sour cream, cottage cheese, eggs ... mostly dairy stuff from what I remember. Again, seemed pretty weird, but I wasn't really paying attention (cracked a rib). We get back on the highway, and it became clear that the two 15 passenger vans were going to have a food fight. They guys in the passenger seats started hurling the dairy at the other van. I wasn't at the rules session, but apparently the driver (both Grad Assts) was responsible for avoiding the incoming ordinance. They would speed to to 60-70 mph and then slam on the brakes. They would swerve from lane to Lane, take to the burn, tailgate, slam on the brakes in front of the tailgater, etc. Everyone was laughing, having a great time. I'm in the back row fearing for my life. I finally told them to pull over and let me out. They belittled me for a while and refused to stop. I tried to suck it up IDK about 15 minutes later, I freaked out and insisted that they pull over. They did, scolded me for being a p*ssy, and then let me know that they were out of ammo. They pulled over just to tell me that I was a p\say. And then we went on our way. I told coach and nothing: said I was making too big a deal of it. Point is I came around. Never p#ssed out at hazing, vandalism, assh÷lery again.

If the stories are true, this. I mean this in addition to the actual legal and NCAA penalties. Again, if true, I want folks to realize that these guys are just really good at wrestling, but the "we're a bunch of good natured dweebs" stuff is a front.

Gotcha. I misread you. i totally agree that remaining anonymous is rational and perhaps the best course of action.

we are talking past each other I'm not talking about retaliation against CStar. The article wasn't either I was talking about the fear of retaliation against the alleged victims if they chose to go public. I think it would be egomaniacal (of Cstar or his proxies) to think that the alleged victims fear CStar's retaliation.

As has been suggested, I think Rash is really close to the principals here. His initial response to the discussion about anonymity kinda tipped his hand. The article and the message board pointed out that the women involved might want to remain anonymous bc they feared retaliation. His first objection was that Carter already knew who could speak out, so anonymity an illusion. The assumption is that Carter would be the one to retaliate. what an egomaniacal thing to say. It's like Rash is so distracted by the potential blowback against CStar that he fails to see the all the other (institutional) dangers whistleblowers face. The "retaliation" wouldn't be from Cstar; it would come in the form of university and law enforcement officials "pursuing the facts," making this person's decisions (good and bad) public. Internet misogynists then follow suit with even less info. The fact that this didn't enter Rash's mind makes me think it's him or a close friend.

one would hope. if there are so many that he doesn't ... wtf. but, can you not understand the connection between sexual assault and shame?

we don't know if she had a problem or not. we also don't know the reasons for her initial silence. we also don't know about the pressures she was under to break the silence. we don't and can't know a lot about this stuff.

I've never had an opinion about this guy, but what a tone deaf tweet.

So, you either haven't heard or don't believe the reports that victims of sexual assault are really reluctant to tell their stories to the authorities.

thanks for the clarification.

Is this the guy who wrestled behind Martin or something. Maybe he went to train for a shot at the world team? I forget.

Do you have another account that you use to talk about the normal stuff wrestling fans talk about? I just can remember a time when you weren't edge-lording it.

Gable began his tenure at Iowa coaching-up honegrown talent. Once his methods proved effective, he started attracting athletes from all over the country and eventually had his pick of the very best. There were even some I stances when athletes would willing give up scholarships and certain starting positions at other programs just to be on tbe Iowa ladder. Eventually though, Gable started dealing with off-the-mat issues. Some speculated that the off the mat issues were connected to the larger than life status of Iowa wrestlers. They were kings of campus and behaved as such. At least, this is the story as I understand it. This is a little pastry, but is Sanderson going through the same ordeal? Are the timelines similar? Or, are the stories about Gable's later teams bs?

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9924543/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7692010/ Idk

Pretty sure he was injured both years. He just didn't make a public statement that "I'm injured, but excuses are for wusses." Instead, he kept quiet and wrestled on one leg . . . twice.

No at the beginning, on the edge near tge Iowa bench .. After Lee had picc' s leg up in the air.